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do you think Italy was really that underpowered in 1940 like
I'm under the impression this scenario is based in 1940 - at that point in time, Guderian is in his prime and a senior to Rommel. Both performed remarkably well in the Polish, Low Countries and French campaigns and both were masters of armor tactics.... or Rommel, who earnt his Pour le Mérite in the mountains of northern Italy in 1917.
I'm under the impression this scenario is based in 1940 - at that point in time, Guderian is in his prime and a senior to Rommel. Both performed remarkably well in the Polish, Low Countries and French campaigns and both were masters of armor tactics.
I would give it to Rommel to have the upper hand in the Italian Alps, as this was his element in WWI, but Guderian would be a terror as well, since he was known to exploit adverse terrain to his advantage.
There's no doubt that Rommel would be exceptionally dangerous in the Alps, he knew the lay of the land well.Either/or, I just think Rommel's direct experience would be handy.
There's no doubt that Rommel would be exceptionally dangerous in the Alps, he knew the lay of the land well.
The range (not endurance) with 1,000 kg (2,200 lb) payload was around 800–900 km (500–560 mi). Sgarlato, Nico. Sparviero (The Great Historical Planes series) N.2 (in Italian), West-ward editzioni, October–November. 2002.
my bad not 1000 km 900km
What weight of bombs? And how much fuel does flying around Switzerland consume?
I thinkThe Basket is pointing out political fallout rather than operational value. I think we both agree that nothing of operational value will come from this hypothetical front no matter who opens it, right? But the domestic effect of having another European power arrayed against it might in Germany have some effect. Might.
The Greater German Reich had a land border with Italy as in Austria so direct military action could be undertaken.
Ww1 rinse and repeat.
Whether the Generals would have done a coup against Hitler is up to who you believe. But Italy was a major European power with a powerful military and so the concept of UK, France and Italy against you may have been the straw that spoilt the broth.
All supposition. Whether Italy was or wasn't isn't the issue but the concept of war with Italy is a unpalatable one.
Doesn't have to.Again, that border is not conducive to mobile warfare, and that terrain favors the defender. Italy was not going to mass a large offensive into Germany though its southern border.
If Stalin did nothing, Hitler would have occupied the whole of Poland .Invading Poland is neutal?
In 1928 the French saw that they were better without the alliance with Poland,because this alliance risked to involve them in wars who benefited only Poland: war between the Czechs and Poland, between the Czechs and the USSR ,AND because the aid Poland could give to France/would give to France if France was attacked by Germany, was almost non existent.That's why France blew up the alliance by building the Maginot Line .Indeed. The stage for the French defeat was set, I think, long before Poland was invaded, and has more to do with French politics that French equipment or the French fighting man. The poilus showed valor and determination during the second half of the campaign, trying to overcome the inept leadership of the first half. It simply wasn't enough by that point.
Not together with the Germans, but after the Germans : on September 17 .Really !!!! It was neutral because of the threaty of Rapallo in 1922 and the Molotov–Ribbentrop pact in 1939 and also the invasion on Poland in the September 1939 together with the Nazi Germany.
..and all the assets Italy sent to the Soviet Front would be lost to Germany. At absolute worst, were Italy to join the Allies, the Axis would be no better off than it was historically. More likely, the loss of the Italian Forces would significantly weaken the Axis.One the same token, all the men, material and assets Germany dedicated to bail out the Italians in North Africa would be freed up as well.
If Stalin did nothing, Hitler would have occupied the whole of Poland .
It was Churchill who said that the Soviet attack had also positive effects for the Wallies .