Lieutenant Commander Roger W. Mehle

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    I'm looking for a photo of Lieutenant Commander Roger W. Mehle's Hellcat from the early summer of 1944. He was the Commander Air Group 28, on board USS Monterey, CVL-26.

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    Lieutenant Commander Roger W. Mehle, Commander Air Group 28, reports the results of an air strike on Tinian to Captain Stuart H. Ingersoll, Commanding Officer of USS Monterey (CVL-26), in one of the carrier's ready rooms, 11 June 1944. Note LCdr. Mehle's shoulder holster (marked "U.S.") and revolver.

    THIS IS ALL I COULD FIND RIGHT NOW
     

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    I found several of Mehle, but none of his plane
     
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    Thanks Guys,

    I need some idea of what tail code his plane carried. Going to do a 1/48 eduard F6F-3 hellcat of his bird. Here is a link to my build of 1/700 USS Monterey:

    Model Ship World :: View topic - 1/700 USS Monterey

    Looking to go with June/July 1944, I think they still had tri-color scheme with large unit numbers on the tail and maybe the white stripe quick recognition 'G' code on the wing tips.
     
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    Nice job building that model. Be sure to show us the pics when youre done.

    I'm curious about one of the pics .... the one with the Avenger lined up ready for takeoff. Are those Bearcats or Hellcats in back??
     
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    Syscom3,

    In the shots that Dad made in the 50's they were Bearcats and Avengers.
     
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    Very nice Bob....Well done mate!
     
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    Good job M8. :thumbleft:
     
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    Bob, that is REAL Good mate, well done!!:)
     
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    Excellent Bob!!
     
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    Hi Bob, the two photo album shots from the forum which you uploaded, labelled Skyraider, is I believe, a Grumman AF-2S Guardian.
     
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    Graeme,

    Yes, You are correct. I failed to notice the 'Rudderlets', too busy looking at the Mast and Radar Fit.

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    Bob W
     
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    Sorry, Bob. Didn't realize those dead links. Will try harder! :)
     
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    My father relieved Roger Mehle at the Naval Safety Center in June 1970.
     
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    R Leonard,

    I have a combat loss report on the way from Guy Robbins;

    INQUIRY NUMBER: G0404440613/CL/F6F/Mehle
    DATE: 13 June 1944
    AIRCRAFT: F6F

    PILOT: ROGER W. MEHLE
    CONTENTS OF COMBAT LOSS FORM: usually 1-2 pages and includes date, aircraft type, serial number, reason for loss; pilot name, rank fate; unit, ship, mission, station; location for the combat loss (if known).

    I'm hoping this will give me more detail of his F6F-3. He was shot down and recovered while making a low level attack on a four gun anti-aircraft battery on the Island of Tinian.

    Source: 'Red Sun Setting' (The Battle of The Philippine Sea) By William T. Y'Blood.

    Let me know if You could point me to a better source for his markings.

    Thanks

    Bob W

    PS I'll be offline untill Monday
     
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    Regretfully, I have no particular source of the particular markings for any plane flown by Roger Mehle during the war.

    Most of the type report you describe are the either the Aircraft Action Report (ACA) or the Aircraft Trouble Analysis (ATA) card. My bet would be that the very best you are going to get out of the ACA is a bureau number and, from most examples I’ve seen, around here and on the web, probably not even that (mostly because there is no requirement to report same), so I would not hold my breath. Side numbers and such usually did not make it into these reports; they simply were not important. Inventories and bureau numbers, gains and losses, and such were reported separately; side numbers were especially unimportant for reporting purposes, as they meant nothing outside the reporting unit.

    The ATA card should provide a bureau number, cause of loss, perhaps a pilot name, and, maybe, a place, but scant else.

    Another thing to consider is that, generally, in carrier operations flying the same aircraft in every sortie/mission/flight was the great, great exception, not the norm. Flight decks were spotted without regard to who was assigned which aircraft. The sole consideration was the order of launch, so it was “set up two F6F divisions followed by 2 TBF divisions, followed by . . .” Side numbers did not matter. It takes a lot of unnecessary effort to put a specific plane in a specific place in the spot when it is no different that the one before it or the one after. Pilots manned what was placed in their order of launch. For example, aboard Yorktown at the Battle of Midway, only 3 of 25 VF-3 pilots actually flew the aircraft they were nominally assigned during the entire action; everyone else, including squadron commander, Thach, flew “someone else’s” at one point or another.

    So, the question you might want to ask yourself is: was Mehle flying his assigned plane or was he flying one from the inventory that was “his” for that mission? “His plane” can have, as you see, two entirely different meanings. I don’t know the answer to that question, but it is a good one to ask.

    Here’s a couple re-creations of typical ACAs from VMB-613:
    Aircraft Action Report 24
    Aircraft Action Report 69

    And another nice re-creation of an ACA from CVG-83:
    http://www17.plala.or.jp/tokoma_higashi/syuron/15_ESSEX ACTION REP ENG.pdf
    even mentions aircraft from CVLG-34. A similar re-creation of the CVG-47 ACA for the same action:
    http://www17.plala.or.jp/tokoma_higashi/syuron/17_BATAAN ACTION REP ENG.pdf

    This site has some good original examples, too:
    American Missions Against Yap Island During WWII

    such as the ACA recording the loss of an SB2C piloted by Johnny Beling
    http://www.missingaircrew.com/pdf/26july44.pdf

    In some cases it has the Aircraft Trouble Analysis card, such as for this loss
    American Missions Against Yap, 28 July 1944
    of an F6F piloted by ENS Edwin Free on 28 July 44
    http://www.missingaircrew.com/pdf/usn/28july44.pdf

    Trouble cards, all the way back to way back when before the war, oddly enough and last I checked, were on file at the Naval Safety Center in Norfolk. As you can see, ACAs have little reference to identifying numbers, side, bureau, or otherwise; and the ATAs generally are a terse format of aircraft type-bureau number-loss date-cause and if you are luck, the pilot name and location. Golly, I hope you didn’t pay somebody a lot of bucks for a copy of an ATA.

    Rich
     
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