Most Devastating Attacker (1 Viewer)

[DKoor]

Jeeepers.....I just luved the Brada Ba.65 option..... whoever put that on teh list gets my r0FL..... bwahahahaha........

BTW 190D gets my vote........... I have few reasons and the biggest being the unexplained criteria.....

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Unexplained criteria....?

 

[DKoor]

I said that because if..... we are talking about pure ac armament then my vote goes to FW-190A8. Especially to those of them which were fitted with Mk108 wing cannons.
Tempest/P-47 being the close second.......... VERY tough decision.

But if we are talking about great performance fighters then I vote for D9.
I would most likely vote for boosted P-51D regarding this criteria if it was included in the list.

 

[Soren]

What about the IL-2 ? Or Ju-87 Stuka ?

The FW-190 Anton series could be fitted with dual 20mm gun-pods which meant six 20mm cannons two 13mm guns - thats alot of firepower! Gun-pods with the Mk-103 was also available to the FW-190, this gun could knock out any Allied tank.

 

[Soundbreaker Welch?]

You know, I don't think this site has many Japanese plane lovers.

 

[Stupid]

the Il-2 and Ju87 are double seaters. although I think some Il-2 variants were single seat. I'd have to go with the P-47

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

What does the Il-2 and Ju 87 being multiple crewmember aircraft have to do with being the best attacker or not?

 

[Stupid]

Because it says single seat attack plane in the title. The Il-2 in my opinion is the best overall attack plane, but again it was double seat.

 

[Marcel]

Because it says single seat attack plane in the title. The Il-2 in my opinion is the best overall attack plane, but again it was double seat.

Haven't read the title for a long time

 

[Soundbreaker Welch?]

The Il-2 in my opinion is the best overall attack plane, but again it was double seat.

Good point. Well, consider this more of a fighter/bomber evaluation.

 

[drgondog]

Eight .50's beats six .50's in any fight!

P47 is the best!

except for the one in which the six (or four) 50's are behind you..More German a/c were destroyed by those two combinations by far than the 'eight'

 

[Soren]

Whoops ! Should've read the title more carefully !

The FW-190 A-8 then IMO.


*Single engine single seat* - repeat- *Single engine single seat* -repeat-*Single engine single seat*

I shall never forget!

 

[davparlr]

I debated the P-47 vs. F4U-4. Both were powerful and rugged air-to-ground attackers. However the F4U-4 had a load lifting capability (fuel, ammo, weapons, pilot) of 3215 lbs and the P-47N had a load lifting capability of 5300 lbs or over 2000 lbs more lifting power than the F4U-4. That's a lot of extra weapons. Therefore, my vote is the P-47(N) which should have been on the list if the F4U-4 was. So I voted for the P-47D.

 

[Soren]

Hmm.. the F4U-4 is the closest to the FW-190 I think, 4x Hispano cannons available providing much more firepower than the 8x .50 cals on the P-47.

The FW-190 could carry 4,000 lbs worth of bombs, 6x 20mm cannons + 2x 13mm guns, or 4x 30mm Mk108's + 2x 20mm's 2x 13mm's, or 2x 30mm MK103's + 2x 20mm MG-151/20's 2x 13mm's. I don't know any other single seat single engined aircraft of that period able to carry this much firepower.

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Because it says single seat attack plane in the title. The Il-2 in my opinion is the best overall attack plane, but again it was double seat.

Yeah I forgot the title of the poll again. Thanks...

 

[davparlr]

Hmm.. the F4U-4 is the closest to the FW-190 I think, 4x Hispano cannons available providing much more firepower than the 8x .50 cals on the P-47.

The FW-190 could carry 4,000 lbs worth of bombs, 6x 20mm cannons + 2x 13mm guns, or 4x 30mm Mk108's + 2x 20mm's 2x 13mm's, or 2x 30mm MK103's + 2x 20mm MG-151/20's 2x 13mm's. I don't know any other single seat single engined aircraft of that period able to carry this much firepower.

All the info I have (limited) on the Fw-190 is a gross weight of about 10-11, 000 lbs and an empty weight of 7500 to 8000 lbs. giving a load lifting value of about 3000 lbs. If you are talking about Max weight, the P-47N has a max weight of 20700 lbs and an empty weight of 11000 lbs., giving a load lifting capability of 9700 lbs. I would doubt that the Fw-190, in any configuration, could get half that value, and, the F4U-4 capability is also much less. By the way, this is more lifting weight than the AD-1 (first version of the A-1), which is 7522.

 

[Soren]

All the info I have (limited) on the Fw-190 is a gross weight of about 10-11, 000 lbs and an empty weight of 7500 to 8000 lbs. giving a load lifting value of about 3000 lbs. If you are talking about Max weight, the P-47N has a max weight of 20700 lbs and an empty weight of 11000 lbs., giving a load lifting capability of 9700 lbs. I would doubt that the Fw-190, in any configuration, could get half that value, and, the F4U-4 capability is also much less. By the way, this is more lifting weight than the AD-1 (first version of the A-1), which is 7522.

Davparlr, the FW-190 could carry a heavier bomb-load than the P-47 believe it or not, a 1,800 kg (4,000 lbs) bomb for example - the P-47 couldn't pull such a load.

You can't count from empty to gross weight..

 

[davparlr]

Davparlr, the FW-190 could carry a heavier bomb-load than the P-47 believe it or not, a 1,800 kg (4,000 lbs) bomb for example - the P-47 couldn't pull such a load.

You can't count from empty to gross weight..

I don't understand this unless my data on Fw-190 weight is wrong. The best Fw-190A data I have, the A-3, had an empty weight of 6380 lbs. and a gross weight of 8751 lbs. leaving lifting weight of 2371 lbs. The D-9, with an empty weight of 7694 lbs and a gross weight of 10670, had a lifting weight of 2976. Now I don't know how even the Germans can manage getting a pilot, fuel and 4000 lbs of bombs on board and not exceed the gross weight. Where is my data wrong? Are there other models MUCH more capable in lifting weight than the A-3 or the D-9?

 

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