Lancaster630
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- Feb 26, 2007
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B-17engineer
Colonel
Agreed~!
snafud1
Senior Airman
That looks fantastic!
Lucky13
Forum Mascot
Amazing!
lesofprimus
Brigadier General
Great job on the model... I noticed the same thing Rob...
Airframes
Benevolens Magister
Nice work. Again, not sure about the spinner. The colour shots I have of this aircraft, with the white front part to the spinner, show a clean joint where it meets the rear, red-painted ring. This is in line with the fact that it's most likely a temporary fit of the original white coloured front spinner with the red rear section for whatever reason. The aircraft later had an all red spinner, as per the 4th FG's colours, up to the point it bellied-in at Debden when Gentille was doing an ultra-low pass for the Press!
B-17engineer
Colonel
You're right, can't argue that! Nice job again!
Javlin, the kit is good fittings, has put a lot of mistakes
- The spinner is too small and the prop blades ask for a little bit of work (easy and cheap replacement from JR).
- The nose is too thin and not correctly shaped (look at the nose intake, it is noticeably too small). Moreover, some panel lines are the ones found on the P-51D nose... Rebuilding fully the area is not for the faint at heart...
- The engine is far too small (close this).
- The engine exhausts stacks are desperately off (Trumpy added un-shrouded exhaust stacks on top of the shrouds!). Again JR is a solution amongst others (this is not so difficult to scratchbuild)
- JR and Aires also released a better cockpit with a FLAT floor, correct B side instruments, additional boxes (batteries) behind the seat and no fantasy wall. If you go for the JR cockpit, I recommend using it with RB US seat belts.
- The Malcolm hood is very bad (odd shape and no side bulge). Jerry Rutman released a vac one that is far better.
- A major and very noticeable flaw: the rear windows are too small (the upper edge is too low)... This is not easy to correct but fortunately, the kit has clear fuselage parts in which new, correctly shaped windows may be cut! Surely a time consuming job but there are not many alternatives except using the far better ones of the old Revell dog.
- The MLG well complies with the "Mustang kit standard" (the fantasy rear wall rather than the visible wing spar...)
- The MLG doors are the P-51D ones (B ones are noticably different...). Rely on the Revell ones?
- The wing leading edge is located too high on the fuselage. Such an error will be very difficult to solve...Take also care to the dihedral.
- Ammo bay doors are too long (ala P-51D).
- Flaps should be closed to avoid being reworked.
- Drill the missing gun camera hole in the port wing.
- The gunports are spaced too far apart. I guess that the .50 are probably as well too far apart in the bays. Close bays and drill new ports.
- Drill missing shell ejection holes.
- Remove wingtips lights and replace them with new tear drops-shaped ones on the wings.
- Add the missing sway braces on the wing pylons.
- If you do not use them, remove the rocket launchers mounts.
- Forget the fantasy photoetched tab actuator.
- The lower section of the rear fuselage is too squared and not deep enough. Again this is not easy to correct.
- Elevators and tail fillet shapes ask for correction.
- Ding Hao decals are incorrect.
It seems that Trumpy thought the obvious differences between a P-51B and a P-51D were the number of guns and the canopy... Seemingly, they also used P-51A references (rounded floor)...
Obviously, this is not yet the definite P-51B. Fortunately, many small errors may be easily corrected by not too expensive aftermarket sets and a little bit of work. However, some shapes problems will ask for a major re-engineering (nose, wing position, rear fuselage bottom and rear windows).
Nonetheless, I've seen at least two kits with few corrections that were painted and weathered and looked OK! It is up to you to decide what deserves to be corrected...
- The spinner is too small and the prop blades ask for a little bit of work (easy and cheap replacement from JR).
- The nose is too thin and not correctly shaped (look at the nose intake, it is noticeably too small). Moreover, some panel lines are the ones found on the P-51D nose... Rebuilding fully the area is not for the faint at heart...
- The engine is far too small (close this).
- The engine exhausts stacks are desperately off (Trumpy added un-shrouded exhaust stacks on top of the shrouds!). Again JR is a solution amongst others (this is not so difficult to scratchbuild)
- JR and Aires also released a better cockpit with a FLAT floor, correct B side instruments, additional boxes (batteries) behind the seat and no fantasy wall. If you go for the JR cockpit, I recommend using it with RB US seat belts.
- The Malcolm hood is very bad (odd shape and no side bulge). Jerry Rutman released a vac one that is far better.
- A major and very noticeable flaw: the rear windows are too small (the upper edge is too low)... This is not easy to correct but fortunately, the kit has clear fuselage parts in which new, correctly shaped windows may be cut! Surely a time consuming job but there are not many alternatives except using the far better ones of the old Revell dog.
- The MLG well complies with the "Mustang kit standard" (the fantasy rear wall rather than the visible wing spar...)
- The MLG doors are the P-51D ones (B ones are noticably different...). Rely on the Revell ones?
- The wing leading edge is located too high on the fuselage. Such an error will be very difficult to solve...Take also care to the dihedral.
- Ammo bay doors are too long (ala P-51D).
- Flaps should be closed to avoid being reworked.
- Drill the missing gun camera hole in the port wing.
- The gunports are spaced too far apart. I guess that the .50 are probably as well too far apart in the bays. Close bays and drill new ports.
- Drill missing shell ejection holes.
- Remove wingtips lights and replace them with new tear drops-shaped ones on the wings.
- Add the missing sway braces on the wing pylons.
- If you do not use them, remove the rocket launchers mounts.
- Forget the fantasy photoetched tab actuator.
- The lower section of the rear fuselage is too squared and not deep enough. Again this is not easy to correct.
- Elevators and tail fillet shapes ask for correction.
- Ding Hao decals are incorrect.
It seems that Trumpy thought the obvious differences between a P-51B and a P-51D were the number of guns and the canopy... Seemingly, they also used P-51A references (rounded floor)...
Obviously, this is not yet the definite P-51B. Fortunately, many small errors may be easily corrected by not too expensive aftermarket sets and a little bit of work. However, some shapes problems will ask for a major re-engineering (nose, wing position, rear fuselage bottom and rear windows).
Nonetheless, I've seen at least two kits with few corrections that were painted and weathered and looked OK! It is up to you to decide what deserves to be corrected...
otftch
Staff Sergeant
Still looks great.
Ed
Ed
More pics here:
GB 29 - P-51B Mustang 1/32 Trumpeter - Finalizado - Novas Fotos - Tópico Powered by Eve Community
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carlos
GB 29 - P-51B Mustang 1/32 Trumpeter - Finalizado - Novas Fotos - Tópico Powered by Eve Community
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carlos
Matt308
Glock Perfection
Carlos,
Please accept my apologies for my post accusing you of insulting our members. I reread your post. The fault was all mine. Sorry.
Matt308
Please accept my apologies for my post accusing you of insulting our members. I reread your post. The fault was all mine. Sorry.
Matt308
Airframes
Benevolens Magister
Thanks for the pic of the spinner Carlos, and apologies for any doubts. It's obvious from your model that the red on the white area of the spinner is intentional, but I had only seen the white spinner from a different photo, where the red does not intrude.
Thanks also for the run-down on the Trumpeter kit. I've only seen pics of this model, and not had the opportunity to view the kit itself, but I thought it never did look right. The only report I've had so far concerned the dihedral on the wing, so your details regarding all the other inaccurate areas are most helpful. Having done a major modification to the old Revell kit many years ago, I don't want to have to do a similar exercise again, especially on what I consider an expensive kit, at £50 approximately in the UK. I think I'll either have to wait until someone releases an accurate B/C in 1/32nd scale, or do a major conversion using the Hasegawa 'D' !!
Thanks also for the run-down on the Trumpeter kit. I've only seen pics of this model, and not had the opportunity to view the kit itself, but I thought it never did look right. The only report I've had so far concerned the dihedral on the wing, so your details regarding all the other inaccurate areas are most helpful. Having done a major modification to the old Revell kit many years ago, I don't want to have to do a similar exercise again, especially on what I consider an expensive kit, at £50 approximately in the UK. I think I'll either have to wait until someone releases an accurate B/C in 1/32nd scale, or do a major conversion using the Hasegawa 'D' !!
