Questions about B-29 operational range, VVS, VVS intercept capability if Operation Unthinkable happen. (1 Viewer)

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Did they, those confirmed claims vs own true losses comparisions are rather useless in giving info about the real life facts. The writers of the report did not even know what aircraft North Koreans had, even at the beginning of the war they had Yak-9Ps, a post-war version and a bit different animal than Yak-7 or plain Yak-9 or even Yak-9D.

Do you have a source then with accurate figures? And would it negate my point that WWII VVS fighters are going to have a tougher time than MiG-15s?
 
While I agree with most of this post, I don't think for a minute the USN will be putting fleet carriers into the Baltic. It's far too small, and dangerous because the Soviets have a ton of submarines.
And it was mostly rather shallow with thousands laid mines and if Soviets planned to attack West surely their subs would have had mined the narrow straits leading into it.
 
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Can Allies do sufficient logistics to support Western Europe through the winter of 45-46 while fighting Soviets at the same time?
Weren't things really tight for the Germans/French without fighting Russians while we put the infrastructure back together??

Will French/Germans/Norwegians/etc be happy to have Americans/British fighting Soviets while they freeze/starve?

Good point.

In addition to don4331's point re starvation in Western Europe, there are the Eastern European countries to consider as well. Most people in the West are not aware that the Soviets made a very serious effort to get food to the non-Soviet countries that ended up in their control - this is one of the positive things often mentioned in the memoirs of the people who were alive in the immediate post-WWII era Warsaw Pact countries - including people from East Germany and Poland.

A bad aspect of this was that the Soviets sometimes sent food to the occupied countries and exported/sold food to foreign nations rather than supply some of their pre-WWII member countries such as Belarus and Ukraine, and to a degree the more remote Russian populations.

What would the West have done in the face of mass starvation in the Eastern European countries as they moved toward the Soviet Union? What could they do?
 
Do you have a source then with accurate figures? And would it negate my point that WWII VVS fighters are going to have a tougher time than MiG-15s?
No but the post on Oct 28, 2024 #230 by Reluctant Poster gives an indication on the WWII situation and that of Bf109XL's message #218 shows figures based on Soviet docus. And for the WWII e.g. the real aircraft losses during the Guadalcanal Campaign shows that the losses were fairly even even if both Japanese and Americans thought that they had clearly shot down more than they had lost. Based on Wolf's 13th Fighter Command, 1 Aug 1942 to 9 Feb 1943 American 610 USAAF, USN and USMC vs Japanese 682 IJNAF and IJAAF losses.
 
No but the post on Oct 28, 2024 #230 by Reluctant Poster gives an indication on the WWII situation and that of Bf109XL's message #218 shows figures based on Soviet docus. And for the WWII e.g. the real aircraft losses during the Guadalcanal Campaign shows that the losses were fairly even even if both Japanese and Americans thought that they had clearly shot down more than they had lost. Based on Wolf's 13th Fighter Command, 1 Aug 1942 to 9 Feb 1943 American 610 USAAF, USN and USMC vs Japanese 682 IJNAF and IJAAF losses.

I understand overclaiming issues. They don't undermine my point.
 
Yes, Soviet fighters in 1945 were less effective bomber killers than MiG-15. Even if Soviet guns were more powerful that those same calibre guns used by Japanese the only effective heavy bomber killers of the VVS KA from top of my head were Yak-9Ts 3 000- built and Yak-9UTs 300- built.
 
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Good point.

In addition to don4331's point re starvation in Western Europe, there are the Eastern European countries to consider as well. Most people in the West are not aware that the Soviets made a very serious effort to get food to the non-Soviet countries that ended up in their control - this is one of the positive things often mentioned in the memoirs of the people who were alive in the immediate post-WWII era Warsaw Pact countries - including people from East Germany and Poland.

A bad aspect of this was that the Soviets sometimes sent food to the occupied countries and exported/sold food to foreign nations rather than supply some of their pre-WWII member countries such as Belarus and Ukraine, and to a degree the more remote Russian populations.

What would the West have done in the face of mass starvation in the Eastern European countries as they moved toward the Soviet Union? What could they do?
Ever hear of Operation Manna, Operation Chowhound or the Berlin Airlift?
 
Yes.

But as mentioned in another thread recently (I do not remember which thread) our ability to supply food to the Western European countries was already stretching our logistics almost to the limit. What would we have left over for the Eastern European countries? And how would that affect our performance in Operation Unthinkable?
 
By 1945, South American nations were joining the Allies, which expanded the source of manpower and supplies, including food stuffs.

British and American logistics, which was still in high-gear by mid-1945, would have come up with a solution based on recent logistical experience.
 

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