Look I'm sympathetic to your words but there's 2 issues that always ruin a thread is gun control and politics,it usually escalates to heated and usually insults that takes what this forum is about and ruins it. So the moderators come down hard on it. They try to keep a level playing field. Just a heads up. I'm not one of them but those 2 subjects tend to shut down a thread.Just the plain truth, or is it not permissible?