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Benevolens Magister
Nice weapon, the VZ, as is the issue Valmet. My Chinese Type 56/1 is an early example, with the machined receiver, rather than pressed metal, and it really shows in the weight. Just a shame it's not 'live' !!
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bobbysocks
Chief Master Sergeant
that is a nice 56...I should have bought a forged receiver ak when I had the chance.
22 can be reloaded a couple times IF you have the right tools ( I don't ). because you have to expand the rim where is gets crushed to ignite the powder it weakens the metal...so you can only trust is for a few reloads. but it is more of a pain than it worth...but you never know what the future holds ( price...availability...etc) in store so getting the kit to reload them may not be a bad idea.
22 can be reloaded a couple times IF you have the right tools ( I don't ). because you have to expand the rim where is gets crushed to ignite the powder it weakens the metal...so you can only trust is for a few reloads. but it is more of a pain than it worth...but you never know what the future holds ( price...availability...etc) in store so getting the kit to reload them may not be a bad idea.
My son in law got me a PSA PA-10, ( AR-10 ) lower kit for Christmas. I had to assemble every spring, pin, etc. myself.
I've since then bought a upper, and associated small parts, barrel, and gas tube, waiting for the bolt group and charging handle to get back into production so I can finish this rifle.
I think since I've assembled this myself, had to buy some special tools to do it, and made some myself also. I may do a few AR-15s and sell them.
I've since then bought a upper, and associated small parts, barrel, and gas tube, waiting for the bolt group and charging handle to get back into production so I can finish this rifle.
I think since I've assembled this myself, had to buy some special tools to do it, and made some myself also. I may do a few AR-15s and sell them.
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
There's a number of sources for wood furniture and I have to say it makes the AR-15 look outstanding.
If my AR weren't so well preserved, I would certainly consider doing it.
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
Yes indeed! 
By the way, I thought I'd add something I have seen discussed about the wood forestock, however. I seems that many of the forestocks tend to split along the top.
I haven't heard if this problem has seen a workaround yet or not.
By the way, I thought I'd add something I have seen discussed about the wood forestock, however. I seems that many of the forestocks tend to split along the top.
I haven't heard if this problem has seen a workaround yet or not.
That wood forward stock may look good, but it would have to be a awfully thin piece of wood. It's still held on by the endcap at the front, and the delta ring at the back.
Then the shoulder stock has to be hollow at the back for the buffer tube, leaving only a small piece of wood for it to be attached to the lower receiver, I think the original fiber reinforced plastic might have served that purpose better.
I remember we all had doubts about that plastic in the Vietnam era, I'm sure someone busted one somewhere, but that happened with wooded stocks too.
When I was in Laos in 71 I saw a M-16 that a local Lao had hand carved a forward stock for his rifle out of a piece of teak, because he had no other option. A beautiful piece of work too.
Then the shoulder stock has to be hollow at the back for the buffer tube, leaving only a small piece of wood for it to be attached to the lower receiver, I think the original fiber reinforced plastic might have served that purpose better.
I remember we all had doubts about that plastic in the Vietnam era, I'm sure someone busted one somewhere, but that happened with wooded stocks too.
When I was in Laos in 71 I saw a M-16 that a local Lao had hand carved a forward stock for his rifle out of a piece of teak, because he had no other option. A beautiful piece of work too.
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Ronnie Radke
Airman
- 10
- May 16, 2016
Got a pair of complete WWII M2 .50 cal waist guns, one from a famous B-17 crash in England & the other from an 8th AF B-24 all in
amazing condition both in their respective waist gun cradles E-13 & E-12. Pretty spectacular when they are both mounted up with belts of 50 cal streaming out the side. I can easily spring a gib lifting those bad boys around......damn!
amazing condition both in their respective waist gun cradles E-13 & E-12. Pretty spectacular when they are both mounted up with belts of 50 cal streaming out the side. I can easily spring a gib lifting those bad boys around......damn!
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
Sure, considering they weigh about 83 pounds (38kg) clean...it's certainly a workout hefting one around!
Ronnie Radke
Airman
- 10
- May 16, 2016
I'm surprised those soulless Liberals in CA haven't taken all your guns already - no high capacity clips over 10 rounds blah, blah - whatever!
vikingBerserker
Lieutenant General
I love the look of that AK47 (or is it the SKS47???? 
) But it's been my experience that woman I am involved with that have guns scare me!
) But it's been my experience that woman I am involved with that have guns scare me!
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
Are you referring to the gal in post 1446?I love the look of that AK47 (or is it the SKS47????
Glider
Captain
I think I would take the chance.
mikewint
Captain
Back in the History thread and Off Topic there were posts about the M16. I first saw one back in '63 and thought the little plastic thing looked like a BB-gun.
Bobby brought up the Mattel thing and Dave posted that Mattel did not make the M16. I moved my reply here for discussion
After the M14s, BARs, M1s, and M2 all wood stocked (which swelled in the heat and humidity) and .30cal, the little plastic .22 looked like a toy
Our Group was the first to receive the Colt 602s. While I agree that Mattel never made the ENTIRE rifle they did in fact make some of the plastic parts and initially the Mattel logo was stamped on the hand grip reinforcing the toy-image. The stamped logo was soon eliminated
Colt factory reps SPECIFICALLY told us that the gun was such a precision-made weapon it never needed cleaning and there was therefore no cleaning kit. The eventual fouling lead to the many mis-fires and jams. Finally a cleaning kit and a comic book HOW-TO
Bobby brought up the Mattel thing and Dave posted that Mattel did not make the M16. I moved my reply here for discussion
After the M14s, BARs, M1s, and M2 all wood stocked (which swelled in the heat and humidity) and .30cal, the little plastic .22 looked like a toy
Our Group was the first to receive the Colt 602s. While I agree that Mattel never made the ENTIRE rifle they did in fact make some of the plastic parts and initially the Mattel logo was stamped on the hand grip reinforcing the toy-image. The stamped logo was soon eliminated
Colt factory reps SPECIFICALLY told us that the gun was such a precision-made weapon it never needed cleaning and there was therefore no cleaning kit. The eventual fouling lead to the many mis-fires and jams. Finally a cleaning kit and a comic book HOW-TO
bobbysocks
Chief Master Sergeant
that ( no need to clean ) I had heard as well. then I also heard of guys over there writing home asking for 3-in-1 oil and toothbrushes....or asking downright for a 22 rifle cleaning kit. the rumors running around the high schools ( heard by all the kids waiting to be drafted to go over to Congville ) was that the gun you will be issued will jam all the time....which isn't a quality you desire when faced with hopped up comnie orientals dressed in black pajamas...storming you in human wave attacks...who have tourniquets on their arms and legs so they don't bleed out before they get to you. there was so much bad info about what went on over there. later on in life when I became a gun dealer and learned more about military weapons I read where the rifle was designed to be used with rounds that used smokeless powder...which does burn cleaner. but the heads of the military declined using that ammo and went with standard ball powder instead. also there are 3 piston ringlike seals on the bolt that need to be positioned at 120 degree intervals. if lined up improperly the gas pressure will blow by and not work the bolt carrier like it should. early models also did not have a forward assist and the charging handle is free floating..so if a round didn't seat all the way in it could create a problem......with cleaning and proper ammo the gun worked as well as any other....I have an old non forward assist ar 15....
Does not matter if there are no pics..
Got to keep the politics totally out of this thread it got closed down for about six months because of that issue.A pic sure would be a treat to which gun porn is allowed though
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