Well got my Russian planes

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    First up the SU-1 in 1/72

    Next is the I-302 in 1/72 and yes there are only two frets for the 302.

    Very basic kits but considering they are limited kits I guess enough Detail for the scale.
     

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    I like them! Great scores Tim!
     
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    Well here I am so far with it but couple of questions on the wings Should I glue the bottom first
    then attach the tops or attach the tops then put the whole thing on.

    Also should I putty now and clean up seams or after I get the wings on?.
     

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    I personally would attach the wing halves together first, then attach them to the fueslage. I treat each section as a subject in itself, so would fill them seperately too before cementing - but at the end of the day, whatever works best for you is the way to go.
     
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    Well, haven't even heard of either of them! look forward to seeing 'em built!
     
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    Me too, and I agree with Evan.
     
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    Not much to it 20 parts all together And I am trying to do better with this kit, But I have learned a lesson with my Fulmar leave well enough alone when it comes to trying to fix mistakes late in the build.

    But here are the picts so far
     

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    Interesting looking bird alright!

    Looking at your wings, they stand quite proud, a common problem I think with the thick mouldings of limited run kits. (A couple of LR kits I have certainly have this problem)
    In future, it would be better to dry fit these first (a good idea for any type of kit), and sand down from the inside as required.
    As these are glued already, you can still sand them down externally, but you will lose the engraved detail - this can be rescribed though.
     
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    What detail what you see is what you get, I think the way they did the wings was to show the lines, as what detail there is, is very soft and will be lost with painting.
     
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    #10 A4K, Jun 17, 2011
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    Yep, you're right Tim about the detail, but what I meant was where the wing halves are glued together. The thickness of the moulds causes one half to stand proud of the surrounding area.

    My Tasman and Jay's (ex Tasman) Spitfires to illustrate:

    1 and 2. Tasman Spitfire Mk.VIIIc - rough (thick) moulding veins still present. Insides sanded down a little, but lower wing sections still stand proud (-were alot worse).
    3 and 4. Jay's Spitfire PR.XIX, originally in same condition. Fit now almost perfect where completely sanded down (flap area still needs attention though).

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    Ah ok I see now. a sanding I will go a sanding I will HI HO a derrio a sanding I will go. And so on and so forth. :)
     
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    :lol:

    Here in Hungary we just say 'Csiszi, csiszi, csiszi...' (sanding, sanding, sanding...) :)
     
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    Sanding done Next up painting weeee!!!!
     

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    Looks much better, good on ya! I would still take it down more myself, but sounds like you're keen to get some paint on! :)
     
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    Sounds like tim is on a roll....:)
     
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    Well question on the SU-1 Would this Mr Surfacer I read about work on filling these seams? there not too bad other than at the wing root.

    And which one would I need to get.
     

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    Some nice work on these kits here. But I agree with A4K ( Evan) some more of sanding and fitting is needed.
    Concerning the Mr.Surfacer.... Tim, it's a primer rather and it is used for primming of surfaces in oreder to get them ready for applying of colours. It works with scratches rather than with a such gaps. I would suggest using of a putty. It can be the Tamiya White one. If it isn't available in a near hobby shop you can use a mix of talc powder and an oil grey enamel ( Humbrol for instance). It is a very good solution for that. When the putty is appled and solidified you can sand it ( what I prefer personally ) or , what is better , use a soft rag with a thinner for the enemel you used for removing the putty excess and making the seams smooth. The rag should be used when the filling ( the putty) isn't dry and harden fully.
     
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    OK here is where I am at with the SU-1. I hope much better looking with the puttying, but how to do the gaps at the wing roots without tearing them up kinda nervous about that part and on the bottom go ahead and putty the rear part or would painting cover the seam up?.
     

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    Like you did in the last picture.. tape on either side and fill it. Then sand with different grits of sandpaper to smooth it.

    Nice work!
     
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    #20 Wurger, Jun 22, 2011
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    Yep..Harry is right. You can use the Superglue , cyanoacrylate adhesive for filling these thin gaps at the rear undersides. Sanding wil be needed though. Concerning these gaps at wing roots.... just threat then as these seams of the fuselage. Fill them with a putty and remove its excesses ( depending on a putty or way you will use ) with either sanding or a soft rag soaked with a thinner.
     
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