Who's Killing Iran's Nuke Scientists?

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  1. Matt308

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    This is a brilliant read...
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    The covert operations that target Iran’s nuclear program suddenly came to light with explosive violence and stunning implications for the future of warfare on Nov. 29.

    On that Monday morning, dawn had just broken over a bustling Tehran so deeply shrouded in smog that many commuters wore face masks to protect against the fumes and dust in the air. On Artesh Street, among rows of new and half-finished apartment blocks, the nuclear physicist Majid Shahriari was working his way through rush-hour traffic with his wife and bodyguard in his Peugeot sedan. A motorcycle pulled up beside the scientist’s car. Nothing extraordinary about that. But then the man on the bike stuck something to the outside of the door and sped away. When the magnetically attached bomb went off, its focused explosion killed Shahriari instantly. It wounded the others in the car but spared their lives. A clean hit.


    Only a few minutes later and a few miles away, in a leafy neighborhood in the foothills of the Alborz Mountains, again a motorcycle pulled alongside the car of another scientist, Fereydoun Abbasi Davani. A longtime member of Iran’s Revolutionary Guards, Abbasi Davani was named specifically in a United Nations sanctions resolution as “involved in nuclear or ballistic missile activities.” Sensing what was about to happen, he stopped the car, jumped out, and managed to pull his wife to safety before the bomb went off.

    That same morning, in Israel, where many see Iran’s nuclear program as a threat to the very existence of the Jewish state, nobody celebrated the Tehran attacks publicly. Nobody claimed responsibility. But nobody denied it, either. And as it happened, that was the morning Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu announced that Meir Dagan would be stepping down after eight years directing the Mossad and its secret operations against Iran. Under a photograph of Shahriari’s thoroughly perforated Peugeot, one of Israel’s tabloids ran the headline LAST SHOT FOR DAGAN?

    This longest day in a dark war was not over yet, however. In Tehran that Monday afternoon, at a press conference that had been delayed for two hours, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told reporters there was “no doubt the hand of the Zionist regime and the Western governments” had been involved in the attacks on the scientists. Then, for the first time, Ahmadinejad admitted something that his government had tried to deny until that moment: the high-speed centrifuges used to enrich uranium for use as nuclear fuel in reactors, or possibly for weapons, had been damaged by a cyberattack. Iran’s enemies—he didn’t specify which ones—had been “successful in making problems for a limited number of our centrifuges with software they installed in electronic devices.” Ahmadinejad assured the press that the problem was now taken care of. “They are unable to repeat these acts,” he claimed. Yet only a few days before, top Iranian officials had declared there was no problem at all.

    Rarely has a covert war been so obvious, and rarely have the underlying facts been so murky. Conspiracy theory hangs as heavy in Tehran these days as the smog: a number of Iranian reformists opposed to Ahmadinejad have suggested the two scientists targeted in November, as well as another one, Masoud Ali Mohammadi, killed by an exploding motorcycle in January, were attacked by the regime itself because their loyalties were suspect. All reportedly sympathized to some extent with the opposition Green Movement. Both Mohammadi and Shahriari had attended at least one meeting of SESAME, a U.N.-linked research organization based in Jordan, where Israelis as well as Arabs and Iranians were present. “In the eyes of the Revolutionary Guards, everybody’s a potential spy,” says a former Iranian intelligence officer, who asked not to be named because of likely retributions inside Iran. “You are either 100 percent dedicated to the system or you are an enemy.”

    -Read the complete article at Newsweek.com


    The Covert War Against Iran's Nuclear Program - Newsweek
     
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    Thats an interesting article thier Matt.A worm with an expiration date?and targeted area?go figure.
     
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    Definitely an interesting thing going on there. The stakes are high, very high, so it's no surprise that multiple entities are doing what they can to disrupt.
     
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    Whether or not it is solely the Isreali's effort, is kind of a moot point. When you have a world leader calling for your nation's geographic location's utter removal from the face of earth and this same jackass is developing nuclear weapons (or even pretending to stage that they are developing nuclear weapons), what does one expect strategically.

    I personally would expect the US to back any democratic nation if threatened similarly. Be it Korea, Columbia, Poland, India, etc.
     
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    Dang. Thing reads like the back cover of a Tom Clancy novel. I always figured there was a ton of cloak-n-dagger stuff goin on all over the world, at any given time, that the unwashed masses would never hear about.
     
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    Agree RA, still makes for a very interesting read. It would take an awful lot to work out all the intricacies between all the factions and who did what, especially with everyone making sure of wiping their trail to leave no/little evidence of who did it. Thanks for sharing Matt.
     
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    Figuring the problems Iran had with their elections last year, it can't be that tough for a recruiter to employ some unhappy political types to work against the Govt. Might even have guys inside the Iranian Nuke Program.

    Question of who is a tough one. For HUMINT, I'd go with just about any Gulf state. They may not be doing the wet work, but their probably letting the Westerners know who and what is going on. But no trail back to them. Last thing they need is to give the Iranians a reason to take a shot at them.

    If I had to pick three operations that might have people doing the actual trigger work, it would be Mossad and MI6 for starters. They are supposed to be the two best at it. And they have a lot of chips in this one, especially Mossad. MI6 might do it hired out. But not a series of them. One and done.

    Last one is a tough call. CIA is an easy call but maybe too easy. Might be better if it were something that was a favor called in. Something like the Russians doing it to return a favor for the CIA doing an Afghan drug lord or some such. Tough to tell, but somebody who is well connected in Iran (ie, selling stuff to the regieme) might be able to do it and get away with it.

    Lastly, it could be a free lancer. Plenty of those running around since the end of the cold war. Contracted out by some security service to do one hit. Get three teams working on three different targets, not knowing about each other and it could work out very well. But they have to have a time and date thing. After a hit has happened, security is going to go bonkers on the Iran side.

    One thing is for sure, it is definitely getting the attention of the Iranian Nuke scientists. Guess the number of guys applying for jobs just dropped off.
     
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    #8 HealzDevo, Dec 14, 2010
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    Israel is too obvious. Could even be covert Chinese action to remove a threat. Pakistan if you look is very close to China. If India and Pakistan ever exchange Nukes, parts of China could be in the receiving line. Easier to deal with that threat before it ever becomes reality. Nip it in the bud. As to the computer virus, China has a lot of the World's Top Hackers working directly and indirectly for it.

    Therefore, certainly China has to be viewed with suspion in this instance as it has a lot to lose if the conflict goes nuclear being so comparatively close. Also major cities such as Delhi and other ones are on the side closest to China and would be considered nuclear weapons targets. Israel doesn't really share that much of a border with Pakistan. Therefore still concerning for Israel, but I think a lot of Pakistan's nuclear arsenel is more likely to be used to wipe India off the map... Therefore India gets wiped out and depending on wind and things, the fall-out gets dumped on parts of China. Just a suspicion, and hopefully isn't that close to true.
     
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    Cant wait for the movie... I hope it has a happy ending.


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    I was wondering when you were going to weigh in! :lol:
     
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    Exciting sh!t Matt!

    At the risk of sounding like a conspiracy freak with a tinfoil hat, I could imagine the (some at least) hits being privately financed. There are a lot of very wealthy organizations/people out there who dont want to see Iran with nukes.
     
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    Well it seems Matt the Iranian Revolutioary Guard has the inside scoop on everybody :oops: Hey i say lets go get some more :)

    In a speech published in Farsi at an Iranian website linked to the Revolutionary Guard, Brig. Gen. Mohammad Reza Naghdi was quoted as saying that “the filthy Americans and the Zionists should not think that with killing our scientists, they can divert our nation from its path of Jihad and scare us.”

    He continued with a specific threat: “We will mark the hanging sites of the American and Zionist generals and we will identify which hanging was in retaliation for the blood of our great martyr Shahriari.”


    Iran Threat to Kill American Generals Is Real, Experts Say - FoxNews.com
     
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    Now there's an idea that I hadn't considered. Iran with nukes is going to be bad news for a lot of industries. And most of them have major companies in that end of the world. When you figure that Iran could create a lot of trouble for Shipping or Nuke Power, that definitely puts a different spin on things.

    Not saying it's probable, but definitely possible.
     
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    Best post of the whole thread!! :)

    Too many variables to blame anyone. Just glad somebody is taking it to the streets of Iran.
     
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    well Javlin said it well the so called general of the Persian toilet boyz just painted a bullseye right in the middle of his shoddy forehead the fool ...........

    this whole thing cracks me up big time, am lovin it
     
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    I think the Accusations against Israel and America are rubbish. They really don't know who to blame at the moment so they are lashing out at the nearest possible target that the public can willingly latch onto especially after all the propoganda the public have been given...
     
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    I dont think we should be supporting a country who stole their land and are commiting atrocious acts every day against a helpless people who are only fighting for their homes back...
     
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    You want to be specific here?!?!?!?
     
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    Lets not feed the troll...

    Maybe he will just go away.
     
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    I wanted him to stick his head out of the ground.


    So I could kick a field goal with his empty skull.
     
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