Bucksnort101
2nd Lieutenant
12 years later and my vote is still Pearl Harbor, and it will probably be so until the day I'm planted 6 feet under (probably from being forced to watch this turd again by someone I know).
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Honestly torn on Midway to be honest. I think we can all point out the dumbest scenes in the movie and the overuse of explosions and planes always being inches from crashing into each other, but for the most part... the events are somehow accurate? Hell, it gave me a much better idea of what was going on during the battle than the 70s version, and it didn't make up any characters to do so.where is "Midway" remake - not as bad as Pearl Harbor or U457 but still deserve place in this competition....
I think that it might be good for very, very knowledgeable people. Problem is that it's too dis-jointed for most viewers.Why is the thin red line there ? I recall it being a very good war movie
and awful music!Though it is not listed, the 1975 Midway was horrible. The Capt. Garth character was stupid, his son and his Japanese girlfriend was stupid, and the F9F Panther sliding down the deck was really stupid. Lazy film making, terrible editing and an idiotic plot.
I thought it was the most boring war movie I'd ever seen. I did not get it at all. And John Travolta looked too much like Freddy Mercury.I think that it might be good for very, very knowledgeable people. Problem is that it's too dis-jointed for most viewers.
Valid point. Michael Bay's movies have many issues, but one thing always worth appreciating is his approach to practical vs cgi. Even in the Transformers movies, practically everything that wasn't a giant robot was really there, all the explosions and stunts, all the actors and stunt doubles that barely escape death. Give Michael Bay a budget and he'll slingshot cars through the air, just don't ask him to do anything else.Definitely Red Tails, just rubbish all round. Perpetuates a myth and the Germans are treated with no more imagination than as cartoon characters.
Despite its terrible story and exaggerated CGI in dog fight scenes, PH had a few redeeming moments and the use of real aircraft in the flight scenes, despite them being the wrong marks for the eras illustrated was a big thing and added a degree of authenticity to the cinematography. For example, the B-25 Dolittle raid take-off scene was actually carried out, they launched those B-25s from the USS Constellation especially for the movie, it wasn't done with models or CGI. The list of airworthy aircraft used in the film was quite extensive and included four B-25s, four Spitfires, the only flying Sea Hurricane and a Hurricane XII, a Hispano Buchon, four P-40s and three Mitsubishi Zeroes, with converted T-6s and BTs for the B5Ns and D3As.
PH was designed as a B grade movie as a homage to great past films such as Hells Angels, where the plot of two guys falling for the same girl against a flying war scenario is the same, as well as a tip of the hat to such greats as Tora Tora Tora, which is definitely the superior film and from which PH used the same B5Ns and D3As as stand-ins and 30 Seconds Over Tokyo, and of course Battle of Britain. The fact that it's a jumbled mess of a film spoils it compared to its inspirations, but the use of real aircraft against the backdrop of the real Pearl Harbor and Ford Island definitely lifts it beyond being complete rubbish, in my view.
The Doolittle Raid sequence, while we can nitpick it to hell and point out how many real people it glossed over (American and Chinese), is still thrilling to watch.