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Heinkel He 111 - 18
Consolidated PBY Catalina - 28
bf-110 Zerstörer - 26 SAVE
Lockheed P-38L Lighting - 14
Japanese Kawanishi H8K "Emily" - 28
Nakajima Ki-84 'Hayate' - 10 KILL
Gloster Gladiator - 20

Hall of Fame:
BF-109G / C-47 Skytrain
P-40 Warhawk / A6M Zero
Hawker Hurricane IIC / FW-190D-9
Supermarine Spitfire MKI / F4F-3 Wildcat
F4U Corsair / Fokker GI
G4M Betty / De Havilland Mosquito
Ta 152 / Avro Lancaster
Ju 88 / B-17 G Flying Fortress
Hawker Tempest Mk V / Republic P-47D
P-61 Black Widow

Hall of Shame:
Farman F.22 / Ilyushin IL-2
Dornier Do 17 / PZL P.11
Dornier Do-335 / Macchi MC 202
Bristol Blenheim / Ta-154
Me 163 / Blackburn Roc
Breda Ba.88 / TBD Devastator
P-39 Airacobra / P-36
Dewoitine D 520 / Lockheed PV-2 Harpoon
Martin PBM Mariner / Bf 109 E-4
 
Ahem...when I "killed" the bf 110 and "saved" the lightning at 22 and 16 respectively, no one followed suit. Post #577.
They should be at 24 and 16 respective at this moment.
 
Heinkel He 111 - 18
Consolidated PBY Catalina - 28
bf-110 Zerstörer - 26
Lockheed P-38L Lighting - 12 KILL
Japanese Kawanishi H8K "Emily" - 28
Nakajima Ki-84 'Hayate' - 12 SAVE
Gloster Gladiator - 20

Hall of Fame:
BF-109G / C-47 Skytrain
P-40 Warhawk / A6M Zero
Hawker Hurricane IIC / FW-190D-9
Supermarine Spitfire MKI / F4F-3 Wildcat
F4U Corsair / Fokker GI
G4M Betty / De Havilland Mosquito
Ta 152 / Avro Lancaster
Ju 88 / B-17 G Flying Fortress
Hawker Tempest Mk V / Republic P-47D
P-61 Black Widow

Hall of Shame:
Farman F.22 / Ilyushin IL-2
Dornier Do 17 / PZL P.11
Dornier Do-335 / Macchi MC 202
Bristol Blenheim / Ta-154
Me 163 / Blackburn Roc
Breda Ba.88 / TBD Devastator
P-39 Airacobra / P-36
Dewoitine D 520 / Lockheed PV-2 Harpoon
Martin PBM Mariner / Bf 109 E-4
 
]Heinkel He 111 - 18
Consolidated PBY Catalina - 30 - SAVE
bf-110 Zerstörer - 26
Lockheed P-38L Lighting - 12
Japanese Kawanishi H8K "Emily" - 26 KILL
Nakajima Ki-84 'Hayate' - 12
Gloster Gladiator - 20

Hall of Fame:
BF-109G / C-47 Skytrain
P-40 Warhawk / A6M Zero
Hawker Hurricane IIC / FW-190D-9
Supermarine Spitfire MKI / F4F-3 Wildcat
F4U Corsair / Fokker GI
G4M Betty / De Havilland Mosquito
Ta 152 / Avro Lancaster
Ju 88 / B-17 G Flying Fortress
Hawker Tempest Mk V / Republic P-47D
P-61 Black Widow

Hall of Shame:
Farman F.22 / Ilyushin IL-2
Dornier Do 17 / PZL P.11
Dornier Do-335 / Macchi MC 202
Bristol Blenheim / Ta-154
Me 163 / Blackburn Roc
Breda Ba.88 / TBD Devastator
P-39 Airacobra / P-36
Dewoitine D 520 / Lockheed PV-2 Harpoon
Martin PBM Mariner / Bf 109 E-4
 
Njaco said:
Nothing but a bunch of Aryan bashing fascists here!!! :):):)
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Ah well, the Bf109G went to the HOF, so not all German-bashers here. But I only save underdogs and kill the obvious ones.

Heinkel He 111 - 18
Consolidated PBY Catalina - 30
bf-110 Zerstörer - 24 Kill
Lockheed P-38L Lighting - 12
Japanese Kawanishi H8K "Emily" - 26
Nakajima Ki-84 'Hayate' - 14 Save
Gloster Gladiator - 20

Hall of Fame:
BF-109G / C-47 Skytrain
P-40 Warhawk / A6M Zero
Hawker Hurricane IIC / FW-190D-9
Supermarine Spitfire MKI / F4F-3 Wildcat
F4U Corsair / Fokker GI
G4M Betty / De Havilland Mosquito
Ta 152 / Avro Lancaster
Ju 88 / B-17 G Flying Fortress
Hawker Tempest Mk V / Republic P-47D
P-61 Black Widow

Hall of Shame:
Farman F.22 / Ilyushin IL-2
Dornier Do 17 / PZL P.11
Dornier Do-335 / Macchi MC 202
Bristol Blenheim / Ta-154
Me 163 / Blackburn Roc
Breda Ba.88 / TBD Devastator
P-39 Airacobra / P-36
Dewoitine D 520 / Lockheed PV-2 Harpoon
Martin PBM Mariner / Bf 109 E-4
 
AV, correct. I think I corrected with this

Heinkel He 111 - 18
Consolidated PBY Catalina - 30
bf-110 Zerstörer - 26 SAVE
Lockheed P-38L Lighting - 14
Japanese Kawanishi H8K "Emily" - 26
Nakajima Ki-84 'Hayate' - 12 KILL
Gloster Gladiator - 20

Hall of Fame:
BF-109G / C-47 Skytrain
P-40 Warhawk / A6M Zero
Hawker Hurricane IIC / FW-190D-9
Supermarine Spitfire MKI / F4F-3 Wildcat
F4U Corsair / Fokker GI
G4M Betty / De Havilland Mosquito
Ta 152 / Avro Lancaster
Ju 88 / B-17 G Flying Fortress
Hawker Tempest Mk V / Republic P-47D
P-61 Black Widow

Hall of Shame:
Farman F.22 / Ilyushin IL-2
Dornier Do 17 / PZL P.11
Dornier Do-335 / Macchi MC 202
Bristol Blenheim / Ta-154
Me 163 / Blackburn Roc
Breda Ba.88 / TBD Devastator
P-39 Airacobra / P-36
Dewoitine D 520 / Lockheed PV-2 Harpoon
Martin PBM Mariner / Bf 109 E-4
 
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Heinkel He 111 - 18
Consolidated PBY Catalina - 30
bf-110 Zerstörer - 28 Save
Lockheed P-38L Lighting - 14
Japanese Kawanishi H8K "Emily" - 26
Nakajima Ki-84 'Hayate' - 12
Gloster Gladiator - 18 Kill

Hall of Fame:
BF-109G / C-47 Skytrain
P-40 Warhawk / A6M Zero
Hawker Hurricane IIC / FW-190D-9
Supermarine Spitfire MKI / F4F-3 Wildcat
F4U Corsair / Fokker GI
G4M Betty / De Havilland Mosquito
Ta 152 / Avro Lancaster
Ju 88 / B-17 G Flying Fortress
Hawker Tempest Mk V / Republic P-47D
P-61 Black Widow

Hall of Shame:
Farman F.22 / Ilyushin IL-2
Dornier Do 17 / PZL P.11
Dornier Do-335 / Macchi MC 202
Bristol Blenheim / Ta-154
Me 163 / Blackburn Roc
Breda Ba.88 / TBD Devastator
P-39 Airacobra / P-36
Dewoitine D 520 / Lockheed PV-2 Harpoon
Martin PBM Mariner / Bf 109 E-4

ccheese said:
The bf-104E-4 had two votes, when I logged on. I killed it and moved it to the HOS. The P-61 had 40
votes so I just moved it to the HOF, adding the HE-111 and the BF-110. My finger slipped and I only
put up a 2 instead of a twenty. That why the Emil went into the HOS.

Look at post 563...... by Sys....

Charles
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It was a joke Charles.

While there are plenty of planes in the HOF and HOS that should be reversed, it is only a game...

In fact if I were to place the aircraft the way I would see fit it would be reversed like this:

Hall of Fame:
BF-109G
C-47 Skytrain
P-40 Warhawk
Hawker Hurricane IIC
FW-190D-9
Supermarine Spitfire MKI
F4F-3 Wildcat
F4U Corsair
De Havilland Mosquito
Ta 152
Avro Lancaster
Ju 88
B-17 G Flying Fortress
Hawker Tempest Mk V
Republic P-47D
Martin PBM Mariner
Bf 109E-4


Hall of Shame:
Farman F.22
Ilyushin IL-2
Dornier Do 17
PZL P.11
Dornier Do-335
Macchi MC 202
Bristol Blenheim
Ta-154
Me 163
Blackburn Roc
Breda Ba.88
TBD Devastator
P-39 Airacobra
P-36
Dewoitine D 520
Lockheed PV-2 Harpoon
A6M Zero
Fokker GI
G4M Betty
P-61 Black Widow
 
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Heinkel He 111 - 18
Consolidated PBY Catalina - 30
bf-110 Zerstörer - 28
Lockheed P-38L Lighting - 14
Japanese Kawanishi H8K "Emily" - 28 SAVE
Nakajima Ki-84 'Hayate' - 12
Gloster Gladiator - 16 Kill

Hall of Fame:
BF-109G / C-47 Skytrain
P-40 Warhawk / A6M Zero
Hawker Hurricane IIC / FW-190D-9
Supermarine Spitfire MKI / F4F-3 Wildcat
F4U Corsair / Fokker GI
G4M Betty / De Havilland Mosquito
Ta 152 / Avro Lancaster
Ju 88 / B-17 G Flying Fortress
Hawker Tempest Mk V / Republic P-47D
P-61 Black Widow

Hall of Shame:
Farman F.22 / Ilyushin IL-2
Dornier Do 17 / PZL P.11
Dornier Do-335 / Macchi MC 202
Bristol Blenheim / Ta-154
Me 163 / Blackburn Roc
Breda Ba.88 / TBD Devastator
P-39 Airacobra / P-36
Dewoitine D 520 / Lockheed PV-2 Harpoon
Martin PBM Mariner / Bf 109 E-4
 
Heinkel He 111 - 18
Consolidated PBY Catalina - 30
bf-110 Zerstörer - 26 KILL
Lockheed P-38L Lighting - 16 SAVE
Japanese Kawanishi H8K "Emily" - 28
Nakajima Ki-84 'Hayate' - 12
Gloster Gladiator - 16

Hall of Fame:
BF-109G / C-47 Skytrain
P-40 Warhawk / A6M Zero
Hawker Hurricane IIC / FW-190D-9
Supermarine Spitfire MKI / F4F-3 Wildcat
F4U Corsair / Fokker GI
G4M Betty / De Havilland Mosquito
Ta 152 / Avro Lancaster
Ju 88 / B-17 G Flying Fortress
Hawker Tempest Mk V / Republic P-47D
P-61 Black Widow

Hall of Shame:
Farman F.22 / Ilyushin IL-2
Dornier Do 17 / PZL P.11
Dornier Do-335 / Macchi MC 202
Bristol Blenheim / Ta-154
Me 163 / Blackburn Roc
Breda Ba.88 / TBD Devastator
P-39 Airacobra / P-36
Dewoitine D 520 / Lockheed PV-2 Harpoon
Martin PBM Mariner / Bf 109 E-4
 
DerAdlerIstGelandet said:
It was a joke Charles.

While there are plenty of planes in the HOF and HOS that should be reversed, it is only a game...

In fact if I were to place the aircraft the way I would see fit it would be reversed like this:

Hall of Fame:
BF-109G
C-47 Skytrain
P-40 Warhawk
Hawker Hurricane IIC
FW-190D-9
Supermarine Spitfire MKI
F4F-3 Wildcat
F4U Corsair
De Havilland Mosquito
Ta 152
Avro Lancaster
Ju 88
B-17 G Flying Fortress
Hawker Tempest Mk V
Republic P-47D
Martin PBM Mariner
Bf 109E-4


Hall of Shame:
Farman F.22
Ilyushin IL-2
Dornier Do 17
PZL P.11
Dornier Do-335
Macchi MC 202
Bristol Blenheim
Ta-154
Me 163
Blackburn Roc
Breda Ba.88
TBD Devastator
P-39 Airacobra
P-36
Dewoitine D 520
Lockheed PV-2 Harpoon
A6M Zero
Fokker GI
G4M Betty
P-61 Black Widow
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Of course a matter of opinion, but I don't understand putting the G.1 in the HOS, the few that did fly before being bombed kicked some a$$, the Zero did very well in 1942 as well, while the Ta152 did nothing at all.
 
Marcel said:
Of course a matter of opinion, but I don't understand putting the G.1 in the HOS, the few that did fly before being bombed kicked some a$$, the Zero did very well in 1942 as well, while the Ta152 did nothing at all.
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As you said matter of opinion.

I will say I vote for my aircraft not based off of nationality as some members here do (not saying that you do...;)).
 
Arsenal VG-33 said:
Heinkel He 111 - 18
Consolidated PBY Catalina - 28 KILL
bf-110 Zerstörer - 26
Lockheed P-38L Lighting - 16
Japanese Kawanishi H8K "Emily" - 28
Nakajima Ki-84 'Hayate' - 14 SAVE
Gloster Gladiator - 16

Hall of Fame:
BF-109G / C-47 Skytrain
P-40 Warhawk / A6M Zero
Hawker Hurricane IIC / FW-190D-9
Supermarine Spitfire MKI / F4F-3 Wildcat
F4U Corsair / Fokker GI
G4M Betty / De Havilland Mosquito
Ta 152 / Avro Lancaster
Ju 88 / B-17 G Flying Fortress
Hawker Tempest Mk V / Republic P-47D
P-61 Black Widow

Hall of Shame:
Farman F.22 / Ilyushin IL-2
Dornier Do 17 / PZL P.11
Dornier Do-335 / Macchi MC 202
Bristol Blenheim / Ta-154
Me 163 / Blackburn Roc
Breda Ba.88 / TBD Devastator
P-39 Airacobra / P-36
Dewoitine D 520 / Lockheed PV-2 Harpoon
Martin PBM Mariner / Bf 109 E-4
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.

Not sure I did this right. I quoted the last post and edited in my kill and save. Forgive me!
 
Heinkel He 111 - 20 SAVE
Consolidated PBY Catalina - 30 SAVE
bf-110 Zerstörer - 28
Lockheed P-38L Lighting - 18
Japanese Kawanishi H8K "Emily" - 30
Nakajima Ki-84 'Hayate' - 16
Gloster Gladiator - 18

Hall of Fame:
BF-109G / C-47 Skytrain
P-40 Warhawk / A6M Zero
Hawker Hurricane IIC / FW-190D-9
Supermarine Spitfire MKI / F4F-3 Wildcat
F4U Corsair / Fokker GI
G4M Betty / De Havilland Mosquito
Ta 152 / Avro Lancaster
Ju 88 / B-17 G Flying Fortress
Hawker Tempest Mk V / Republic P-47D
P-61 Black Widow

Hall of Shame:
Farman F.22 / Ilyushin IL-2
Dornier Do 17 / PZL P.11
Dornier Do-335 / Macchi MC 202
Bristol Blenheim / Ta-154
Me 163 / Blackburn Roc
Breda Ba.88 / TBD Devastator
P-39 Airacobra / P-36
Dewoitine D 520 / Lockheed PV-2 Harpoon
Martin PBM Mariner / Bf 109 E-4

Charles
 
Heinkel He 111 - 22 SAVE
Consolidated PBY Catalina - 30
bf-110 Zerstörer - 28
Lockheed P-38L Lighting - 18
Japanese Kawanishi H8K "Emily" - 28 KILL
Nakajima Ki-84 'Hayate' - 16
Gloster Gladiator - 18

Hall of Fame:
BF-109G / C-47 Skytrain
P-40 Warhawk / A6M Zero
Hawker Hurricane IIC / FW-190D-9
Supermarine Spitfire MKI / F4F-3 Wildcat
F4U Corsair / Fokker GI
G4M Betty / De Havilland Mosquito
Ta 152 / Avro Lancaster
Ju 88 / B-17 G Flying Fortress
Hawker Tempest Mk V / Republic P-47D
P-61 Black Widow

Hall of Shame:
Farman F.22 / Ilyushin IL-2
Dornier Do 17 / PZL P.11
Dornier Do-335 / Macchi MC 202
Bristol Blenheim / Ta-154
Me 163 / Blackburn Roc
Breda Ba.88 / TBD Devastator
P-39 Airacobra / P-36
Dewoitine D 520 / Lockheed PV-2 Harpoon
Martin PBM Mariner / Bf 109 E-4

Charles
 
Heinkel He 111 - 22
Consolidated PBY Catalina - 28 Kill
bf-110 Zerstörer - 28
Lockheed P-38L Lighting - 18
Japanese Kawanishi H8K "Emily" - 28
Nakajima Ki-84 'Hayate' - 18 Save
Gloster Gladiator - 18

Hall of Fame:
BF-109G / C-47 Skytrain
P-40 Warhawk / A6M Zero
Hawker Hurricane IIC / FW-190D-9
Supermarine Spitfire MKI / F4F-3 Wildcat
F4U Corsair / Fokker GI
G4M Betty / De Havilland Mosquito
Ta 152 / Avro Lancaster
Ju 88 / B-17 G Flying Fortress
Hawker Tempest Mk V / Republic P-47D
P-61 Black Widow

Hall of Shame:
Farman F.22 / Ilyushin IL-2
Dornier Do 17 / PZL P.11
Dornier Do-335 / Macchi MC 202
Bristol Blenheim / Ta-154
Me 163 / Blackburn Roc
Breda Ba.88 / TBD Devastator
P-39 Airacobra / P-36
Dewoitine D 520 / Lockheed PV-2 Harpoon
Martin PBM Mariner / Bf 109 E-4
 
Heinkel He 111 - 24 Save
Consolidated PBY Catalina - 28
bf-110 Zerstörer - 26 Kill
Lockheed P-38L Lighting - 18
Japanese Kawanishi H8K "Emily" - 28
Nakajima Ki-84 'Hayate' - 18
Gloster Gladiator - 18

Hall of Fame:
BF-109G / C-47 Skytrain
P-40 Warhawk / A6M Zero
Hawker Hurricane IIC / FW-190D-9
Supermarine Spitfire MKI / F4F-3 Wildcat
F4U Corsair / Fokker GI
G4M Betty / De Havilland Mosquito
Ta 152 / Avro Lancaster
Ju 88 / B-17 G Flying Fortress
Hawker Tempest Mk V / Republic P-47D
P-61 Black Widow

Hall of Shame:
Farman F.22 / Ilyushin IL-2
Dornier Do 17 / PZL P.11
Dornier Do-335 / Macchi MC 202
Bristol Blenheim / Ta-154
Me 163 / Blackburn Roc
Breda Ba.88 / TBD Devastator
P-39 Airacobra / P-36
Dewoitine D 520 / Lockheed PV-2 Harpoon
Martin PBM Mariner / Bf 109 E-4
 
Heinkel He 111 - 24
Consolidated PBY Catalina - 28
bf-110 Zerstörer - 28 SAVE
Lockheed P-38L Lighting - 18
Japanese Kawanishi H8K "Emily" - 28
Nakajima Ki-84 'Hayate' - 18
Gloster Gladiator - 16 KILL

Hall of Fame:
BF-109G / C-47 Skytrain
P-40 Warhawk / A6M Zero
Hawker Hurricane IIC / FW-190D-9
Supermarine Spitfire MKI / F4F-3 Wildcat
F4U Corsair / Fokker GI
G4M Betty / De Havilland Mosquito
Ta 152 / Avro Lancaster
Ju 88 / B-17 G Flying Fortress
Hawker Tempest Mk V / Republic P-47D
P-61 Black Widow

Hall of Shame:
Farman F.22 / Ilyushin IL-2
Dornier Do 17 / PZL P.11
Dornier Do-335 / Macchi MC 202
Bristol Blenheim / Ta-154
Me 163 / Blackburn Roc
Breda Ba.88 / TBD Devastator
P-39 Airacobra / P-36
Dewoitine D 520 / Lockheed PV-2 Harpoon
Martin PBM Mariner / Bf 109 E-4
 
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