Who has the best Special Forces (military forces) on the planet, give me your top ten. 1 being the best and 10 being the worst of the top ten. I hope this is not to general of a question, I just have no clue who has the best. SAS, US Navy Seals, etc ? Give me your list and plz leave your national pride out of this list and just give the best as you see it and why. Thanks
Best Special forces
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SAS/SBS in my opinion, all there are others who are also good.
It is widely accepted that the S.A.S are the supreme special forces unit on the planet, as they have been everywhere and are extremely well-trained in all situations. But the main reason is because they have been around the longest, while being the heaviest of conflicts.
However, it will depend on the man, or men, in the unit. Easily enough I would be able to say that Dan (Ex-SEAL) would be better prepared and more combat capable than some SAS. Put it this way, if any of the best special forces units are in the vincinity ... you aren't going to have chance to be scared because they'll kill you without you knowing they're there.
However, it will depend on the man, or men, in the unit. Easily enough I would be able to say that Dan (Ex-SEAL) would be better prepared and more combat capable than some SAS. Put it this way, if any of the best special forces units are in the vincinity ... you aren't going to have chance to be scared because they'll kill you without you knowing they're there.
Henk
Master Sergeant
I am quite stupid so guys please help me and tell me which country the SAS is from. I know that the South African Special forces was once in the top five of the best, but I do not know now. Taakmag is the name, the are now pretty good, but I not know where they are in the world when it comes to the top ten.
The German anti aircraft Hijack team is regarded as the best in the world.
Henk
The German anti aircraft Hijack team is regarded as the best in the world.
Henk
Nonskimmer
Captain
The thing is, with very few exceptions, no one here would really even have a clue who was best or why. The SAS has been widely publicized by media over the last twenty-ish years as perhaps being the best, and they've been featured in much literary fiction of the genre, but are they actually the best? Maybe. I sure as hell wouldn't know. I've heard some say the US Navy SEALs were the best. The Israeli special forces are supposed to be right up there too. Hell, even the Canadian military special types have never exactly sucked.Hunter368 said:
So I guess you could say, I haven't got the slightest idea who's the best. There's my answer.
The SAS are from the United Kingdom, Henk. They formed in 1942, in the North African desert. There are other SAS units in the Commonwealth, one of the first incursions into Iraq in 2003 was a combined operation of Australian and British SAS units.
A discussion of the best could go on forever. And the only people really qualified to say anything is someone who has been through all the training courses, and served in all the forces. And that will never happen. The second best are operatives from each service in a room, discussing their tactics and past missions ... but since most of them are still classified , that isn't going to happen either.
The men in these units are constantly training, so obviously a ten year veteran of the SEALs is going to better than a freshly trained SAS operative.
A discussion of the best could go on forever. And the only people really qualified to say anything is someone who has been through all the training courses, and served in all the forces. And that will never happen. The second best are operatives from each service in a room, discussing their tactics and past missions ... but since most of them are still classified , that isn't going to happen either.
The men in these units are constantly training, so obviously a ten year veteran of the SEALs is going to better than a freshly trained SAS operative.
Henk
Master Sergeant
Oh, yes the SAS is the best in the world. That is true.
Thanks mate for letting me know and helping my small brain. lol
Henk
Thanks mate for letting me know and helping my small brain. lol
Henk
lesofprimus
Brigadier General
Guys, this all boils down to The Mission.... What needs to get done??? Night Infiltration??? Riverine??? Desert??? Snow??? Mountains???
Bottom line, The Israeli Special Forces are regarded as the Most Elite... Ive trained with Spec War guys from all over the planet, and the SAS guys were always impressive, as were the Dutch and Aussie and German and ect ect...
As it goes, when we were working with other services, we usually ran them into the ground, out swam them, showing marksmanship scores and kill box %'s that no one could touch.... Even the SAS guys hold us in the Top Regard.... I never had to buy my own drinks in all the time I was in the British Isles....
Bottom line, The Israeli Special Forces are regarded as the Most Elite... Ive trained with Spec War guys from all over the planet, and the SAS guys were always impressive, as were the Dutch and Aussie and German and ect ect...
As it goes, when we were working with other services, we usually ran them into the ground, out swam them, showing marksmanship scores and kill box %'s that no one could touch.... Even the SAS guys hold us in the Top Regard.... I never had to buy my own drinks in all the time I was in the British Isles....
Nonskimmer
Captain
Me either, but for obviously...different reasons.lesofprimus said:
Henk
Master Sergeant
Oh yes the Israel's is also great. You lucky dog. Have you been to South Africa or did you train with our guys?
Once guys tried to Hijack these two guys who were in their car. Both guys who tried to Hijack these two fellows were killed. It turned out the two guys waiting in the car were from Taakmag Special Forces and did not stand still for that kind of bullshit.
Henk
Once guys tried to Hijack these two guys who were in their car. Both guys who tried to Hijack these two fellows were killed. It turned out the two guys waiting in the car were from Taakmag Special Forces and did not stand still for that kind of bullshit.
Henk
lesofprimus
Brigadier General
I trained with the SASFB on several occasions, in Greece.....
The SAS are not the best in the World.... In certain mission profiles, the are the most highly trained.... But in the broader spectrum of Combat Arms, the US Navy SEALs and the IDF Sayerets, including 13 and Matkal, are head and shoulders above the rest in training and operational tempo...
The SAS are not the best in the World.... In certain mission profiles, the are the most highly trained.... But in the broader spectrum of Combat Arms, the US Navy SEALs and the IDF Sayerets, including 13 and Matkal, are head and shoulders above the rest in training and operational tempo...
Henk
Master Sergeant
les what did you think of the South African guys?
Henk
Henk
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Thanks guys for the information. Special thanks to you Les for your information. On a side note my cousin trained with US Navy Seals on more than one occasion. His comments were that they were very very very good, the best he had ever seen. He also served in UK for a time, not sure if he ever trained with the SAS, I will have to ask him next time I talk to him.
Nonskimmer
Captain
Is he JTF, or something else? If so, what the hell is he doing talking to you about his training?Hunter368 said:
That is unless...you're some kinda Rambo type too.
lesofprimus
Brigadier General
Excellent operators, knew their weapons and tactics very well, liked drinking Uzo waaaaayyyy too much....
Wildcat
Major
Les did you do much training with the Aussie SAS? or even the Navy Clearance divers?
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Nonskimmer said:Is he JTF, or something else? If so, what the hell is he doing talking to you about his training?
That is unless...you're some kinda Rambo type too.
He is or was (not sure right now) some kind of underwater (deepsea) rescue / underwater explosive specialist. He has told me about some of his operations (I don't think any of them are secrets but not sure), if he did anything that was hush hush he would not tell me, he is by the book guy from what I can tell, hardcore military guy. He has been in the military for about 18-19 years now, wow times flies.
On a funny note once I was at a bar with him and a group of his buddies (from the military also) and they almost started a bar brawl b/c there was some Army guys in the bar also and one of them was making out with some chick while he was in uniform and my cousin and his friends thought that was wrong to be doing in uniform. So they not so nicely told the guy to stop. The two sides faced off (me standing among all these 200-240lbs navy guys lol), until the Army officer told his men to back off (and told the guy making out with the chick to stop). It was close to a whole bar brawl, it was funny. We laughed about that one more than once.
He told me of training with US Seals but only in general terms, most of which I forget now. He impressions of them was of the highest regard, he said he loved training with them and would do it again if he had the chance in a second.
And noooo I am not a Rambo of anykind. I have trained for years in hand-hand combat, TMA and MMA but no soldier. I love getting on a mat and fighting. I love to learn about anything to do with hand to hand combat, it is a passion of mine. I wish I could train in MMA 10 hours a day, but sadly I can't. Not to mention I am getting older, 36 now. My dream would be to train with some of the top MMA in the world as well as combat troops (SAS, US Seals, etc only in hand to hand combat). But I would first have to win the lottery. Fighting on the mat does not pay my bills or feed my wife and daughter.
lesofprimus
Brigadier General
I have worked with the Aussie SAS before, but still classified..
Nonskimmer
Captain
He's a clearance diver by the sound of it. Their physical training is the toughest anywhere. I've been led to believe it's on par with that of special forces, including the US Navy SEALs (minus the hand-to-hand and small arms stuff of course), so it's probably no surprise then that he did some training with them. My wife's cousin is a bubble head too. Those guys can get a little nuts.Hunter368 said:
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