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Mr Instal..You have not been around here to long..Theres some old boys who REALY know there history ..And DerAdler is one of them.. FlyBoyJ and PlanD also..And if you come across "strong willed" ..As you "did"..You best know your facts and history..Because they will carpet bomb you..They realy pride them selves on the facts..And you even got me into it..And I do not do that ..I use to "think" that I knew about war history and all...Until I came here..And if you read my posts ...I will ask why on stuff and bring a small peace of info to a post..But sit back and learn around hear most days..So if your sure on your facts and want to charge the gunners nest ..Do so ..But you may get cut to peaces..
And being called dumb ..Thats nothing ..One of my first few post PlanD called me F#$%khead or F@#$kstane ..LOL...So dumb was light..
And you didn't even try to torpedo my last post..???..And I'm ez to sink..A few of these guys realy know there stuff ...Your going to need a little more armor if your going to play these are the "facts"...
If you were sitting beside me when I typed "would you quit calling me dumb" you would have seen a smile on my face. I certainly did not intend to infer that I was being slighted. Sometimes it is difficult to type with the intended inflection. I guess I better use more smiliesHaztoys you are absolutely right when you say there are allot of guys here that really know thier history however if you read my post I said "I may have my facts wrong here so slam away". Are you suggesting that if I do not have all the facts about a particular topic that I should not write any posts? I do not know much about forums and as you pointed out I am pretty new around here but wouldn't that make for a pretty boring forum? And no offense but if I want to brush up on my history I'll read a book.
I'll have you know I had all my shots!
Aw come on Joe, your Bark is worse than your bite...
....most of the time!
Well if Britain and France had just stood up to Hitler in the thirties when they had the chance, the war in Europe might never have happened. At least as far as the Germans are concerned, the Russians on the other handThe last thing I want to do with the following comments is to cast disparaging remarks to my friends south of the border but I have allways wondered about Britain owing money to the U.S. for WW2. I personally find it reprehensible that Britain would owe anyone anything for carrying the fight to the Nazi's particularly when the US had it's head in the sand. Profiting from someone who is fighting that kind of evil is just wrong. The British people suffered greatly from the war they should not be made to continue to suffer because they did the right thing. And ya ya ya I know they weren't the only ones to suffer.
I know I am trivializing Lend Lease with England and the US but looking at it as in business way of thinking and at a different angle the Debt being Lend Lease has to be repaid. You don't expect banks to lend money then forget the debt later when its inconvient to the borrower and hope the debt is forgiven later. I will have to side with the Americans on this one. US Tax Payers then and even now can't be expected to foot the bill. I hope what I have written makes sense at what I am trying to say on this debate
You do realise I hope, that the bill has been repaid in full.
If the French are making good noises to Bush maybe he will raise the issue of what France owes the USA.
Somehow I don't see that happening.
I know I am trivializing Lend Lease with England and the US but looking at it as in business way of thinking and at a different angle the Debt being Lend Lease has to be repaid. You don't expect banks to lend money then forget the debt later when its inconvient to the borrower and hope the debt is forgiven later. I will have to side with the Americans on this one. US Tax Payers then and even now can't be expected to foot the bill. I hope what I have written makes sense at what I am trying to say on this debate
Lets not forget that £300 Billion in Gold Bullion was shipped to the United States from Great Britain so that it would not fall into NAZI hands should the country be invaded. This plus other valuable assets more than compensated for British purchases during the war (mainly food, fuel and raw materials).
The idea that Great Britain owed money to the United States at the end of the war is utterly ludicrous. Great Britain had more than sufficient assets to pay for U.S. supplies.
The problem was that immediately hostilities ended, the Wall Street Bankers DEMANDED their money in cash. This money however was needed for the rebuilding of the British economy to a Peace-time situation (eg repairing damage cause by the enemy, modernizing industry, funding those matters that had been neglected because of the war such as the railways, hospitals and schools).
Hundreds of thousands of men were also returning home from the fighting services-All requiring homes and jobs.
Faced with this the Attlee Government was forced to appeal to the United States for financial assistance. An appeal that was initially refused by the Americans (though they later relented and allowed a financial loan (not nearly enough to cover requirements)). It was This loan that has recently been repaid (Not as many of todays Americans would suggest for Lend-Lease purchases).
Lets not forget that £300 Billion in Gold Bullion was shipped to the United States from Great Britain so that it would not fall into NAZI hands should the country be invaded. This plus other valuable assets more than compensated for British purchases during the war (mainly food, fuel and raw materials).
The idea that Great Britain owed money to the United States at the end of the war is utterly ludicrous. Great Britain had more than sufficient assets to pay for U.S. supplies.
The problem was that immediately hostilities ended, the Wall Street Bankers DEMANDED their money in cash. This money however was needed for the rebuilding of the British economy to a Peace-time situation (eg repairing damage cause by the enemy, modernizing industry, funding those matters that had been neglected because of the war such as the railways, hospitals and schools).
Hundreds of thousands of men were also returning home from the fighting services-All requiring homes and jobs.
Faced with this the Attlee Government was forced to appeal to the United States for financial assistance. An appeal that was initially refused by the Americans (though they later relented and allowed a financial loan (not nearly enough to cover requirements)). It was This loan that has recently been repaid (Not as many of todays Americans would suggest for Lend-Lease purchases).