CAPTURED AIRCRAFT - ODD PHOTOS

ccheese · Jul 21, 2007

Did you happen to notice the difference in the tail assemblys of the
lead aircraft and the other two ? The lead aircraft is obviously an
early model. I think these aircraft were captured when the Japanese
captured the Phillipines, along with a bunch of P-40's and Bruster
Buffalo's.

Charles

DerAdlerIstGelandet · Jul 21, 2007

Not sure but I thought that Japan also might have bought some early models before the war broke out. Not sure though...

ToughOmbre · Jul 21, 2007

ccheese said:
Did you happen to notice the difference in the tail assemblys of the
lead aircraft and the other two ? The lead aircraft is obviously an
early model. I think these aircraft were captured when the Japanese
captured the Phillipines, along with a bunch of P-40's and Bruster
Buffalo's.

Charles

That's right. Although most of the USAAF aircraft were destroyed on the ground (MacArthur was asleep at the switch), a few were captured intact. And we were doing ourselves a favor by letting them get the Buffaloes.

Wildcat · Jul 21, 2007

I believe the Buffaloes were captured in Malaya and Singapore. I don't recall the USAAC having them in the Philippines.

Njaco · Jul 21, 2007

The lead B-17 is a "D" model and the ones following are "E" or "F" models.

see this..

Captured B-17
"These three B-17s were captured by the Japanese in the Philippines and Netherlands East Indies. They were tested by the IJAAF Koku Gijutsu Kenkyujo (Air Technical Research Laboratory) at Tachikawa."

Check out the closeup pics that are on the site.

Marcel · Oct 17, 2007

Well I'm really into the Fokker G.I today, so I couldn't help myself posting this one here. This G.IB stoot ready at the time of the German invasion, but if only it had guns... The Germans were quick to get this one to Germany after hostilities ended.

FLYBOYJ · Oct 17, 2007

Very cool!

Marcel · Oct 17, 2007

Fun thing is, it still has dutch orange triangles on the wings, it's hard to see. but they're there

Wurger · Oct 17, 2007

They are really visible , especially on the left wing.
8) Marcel.

Marcel · Oct 17, 2007

Wurger said:
They are really visible , especially on the left wing.
8) Marcel.

You mean the right winG?

Wurger · Oct 17, 2007

Wurger · Oct 17, 2007

I think in the picture the markings are better visible,aren't they.

source unknown.

Marcel · Oct 18, 2007

Wurger said:
I think in the picture the markings are better visible,aren't they.

source unknown.

Ah, but technically speaking this is not a captured plane This one was built during the occupation for the Luftwaffe. The other one was built for the LVA.

Wurger · Oct 18, 2007

I must admit I haven't known about this.THX Marcel for the info.

Marcel · Jan 1, 2008

Another dutch plane, this time flying for both sides! A Fokker T.VIII float plane of the Dutch navy, the same model flying for the germans and one flying in the 320th dutch navy squadron in the UK:
(Source unknown)

drgondog · Jan 1, 2008

Single-Handed-Sailor said:
I share my photo collection how I see fit, on the net and in print. The more folks who get to see this kind of thing, the better. That is what is most important to me, and that is why I choose to post some of my collection on the internet. Please do not misunderstand; I do not mind that people take images I have posted on the net and post them elsewhere, so long as credit is given. It's a very simple and plain matter of courtesy. If you find an image on the internet, or take it from another source, such as a book or magazine, and present it elsewhere, the least you can do is mention the source.

The bottom line is the fact that the individual who posted the image here in this thread should have stated that he found it on a given website or forum, but did not. If he could not remember where it was found, this should have been stated. Again, it's a matter of courtesy. And again, I'm not angry about this, just a tad miffed. I merely wish to see that credit is given where it is due.

I have basically the same philosophy regarding my own 2000 plus photo collection of 355Fg and Scout Force. In the photo image upload I put in the 355th FG section here, you can see that I am meticulous about crediting the original source (to me). Most are USAAF/USAF property if one were to dive deep into 'original' copyright...

I have had a few unscrupulous folks use my material and research w/o credit but at the end of the day I don't really care.

drgondog · Jan 1, 2008

evangilder said:
I posted my Captured Eagles presentation write-up a while back. Here are some pictures I used for the presentation. These are collected from a variety of sources.

Below is 358FS/355FG YF-U Beele flown by Bill Roach and Walt Kossack's YF-X the day they was captured (November 7, 1943). The bottom photo was after the LW repainted it in US colors for a propganda film. These two ships were two of four that ran out of fuel extending too far to cover a bomb group under attack.

Both Kossack and Roach spent rest of war as POW's

Joe- on your F4U - it was captured by Japanese and transported via sub.

On the B-17s I believe the D was captured at Java, not the Phillipines and I have no idea regarding the B-17E's but we lost a few at Truk for sure. Maybe they were repaired... I don't believe the 19th BG had B-17Es in Phillipines - only at Port Moresby and Guadalcanal?

R Leonard · Jan 6, 2008

Joe- on your F4U - it was captured by Japanese and transported via sub.

You mean the one way back in the very first post??

Exactly which submarine did the Japanese carve up in order to stuff even pieces of an F4U . . . and can you cite a TROM to go along with your statement?

Micdrow · Jan 6, 2008

R Leonard said:
You mean the one way back in the very first post??

Exactly which submarine did the Japanese carve up in order to stuff even pieces of an F4U . . . and can you cite a TROM to go along with your statement?

The only japanese sub that I can think of that would even come close to carrying an aircraft as big as a corsair would be the I-400 series submarine.

Wurger · Jan 6, 2008

Like this one.

source: Varifrank: History file Archives

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