Coronavirus Thread

[vikingBerserker]

Dang-it! And I had already bought the world's supply of Vitamin D Toilet Paper!

Seriously, it just (to me) stated common sense, there is no need to OD on the stuff but it was interesting.

 

[at6]

I'm taking "safe" doses of "D" and safe levels of vitamin C plus all of the other precautions as recommended so that I might live another 15 years at least. I really don't want to pass over before I reach 85 to perhaps even 100. I'm only 70 years old and that's too young for me.

 

[pgeno71]

So my antibody test was "inconclusive". Whatever the heck that means...lol Apparently it is neither positive, nor negative.

I'm being told to retake it.

An inconclusive test you say...huuummm. Definitely sounds like something is afoot to me. And, they want you to take it again. Yup, sounds like Russians bots to me, for sure. No wait. May be it was Kazakhstani hackers, those guys get ever body. It could even be the Centaurians from Alpha Centauri A, but they are usually a lot sneakier in there tactics, if you know what I mean. You guys will have to excuse me I have to go change the tin foil in my hat, I can feel some signals getting though.

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

An inconclusive test you say...huuummm. Definitely sounds like something is afoot to me. And, they want you to take it again. Yup, sounds like Russians bots to me, for sure. No wait. May be it was Kazakhstani hackers, those guys get ever body. It could even be the Centaurians from Alpha Centauri A, but they are usually a lot sneakier in there tactics, if you know what I mean. You guys will have to excuse me I have to go change the tin foil in my hat, I can feel some signals getting though.

Don't lie, you actually believe that...

 

[pgeno71]

Don't lie, you actually believe that...

Alright, you got me.

 

[at6]

Ask your government, at6.

One country absent from the JHU list is the Cook Islands. No cases of covid-19 and no deaths! Go Rarotonga!

I know some were slightly offended at what I said but freedom to gather in close quarters with no masks and spread the danger bothers me. I hate big government and more socialist style [Communist] government but at this point I'm willing to try a few restrictions temporarily just to stay well. I want business to re-open and would dearly love to sit in a Denny's eating a Denny Burger but I accept that I can't at this time. I see more and more people not using masks in stores and not using social distancing and I don't want any one closer than six to even ten feet from me. I want to be 100 making love to a 21 year old.

 

[ThomasP]

Minnesota report, May 18
cases 16,372**, recovered 10,764***, hospitalized 2,128, deaths 731**, tested 156,606*/**
fatality rate 4.5%
mortality rate 128.2 per million
test rate 27.5 per thousand*
*Test kits and reagents are becoming more available, and Minnesota's ability to test is now more than 7,000 people/day. Testing of the general population is beginning in small numbers.
**The measures used by Minnesota have reduced the rate of spread significantly, however, our rate of spread (reflected by the death rate 'curve') appears to be steady.
***A correction to the number of cases no longer needing isolation was made between the 17th and 18th.

 

[pbehn]

Most people can understand that 2 meters is the same as 6ft when "social distancing" is concerned, when the jobsworths with their tape measures start measuring up and marking out classrooms and corridors, it makes a huge difference.

 

[cherry blossom]

One of the great mysteries of this epidemic is that individuals have widely different responses to infection. I found an article in one of the top biomedical journals that stated that "Importantly, we detected SARS-CoV-2−reactive CD4+ T cells in ∼40-60% of unexposed individuals, suggesting cross-reactive T cell recognition between circulating 'common cold' coronaviruses and SARS-CoV-2" https://www.cell.com/cell/fulltext/S0092-8674(20)30610-3. I haven't read the complete article but perhaps people who have recently had a coronavirus related "common cold" Common Cold Causes: Rhinoviruses and More may be primed to fight off Covid-19.

 

[Freebird]

. This is similar to the common flu. There have been documented cases of re-infection weeks after index infection. .

Would these not be more likely from testing errors or other factors vs true recovery and reinfection?

 

[Marcel]

Bit annoyed here. We now have to wear non-medical masks in public transportation our face a €90 fine although they know it's BS. Those non- medical masks are as effective as wearing a tinfoil hat. I'd rather have them focused on things that really help instead of this political BS.

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

I don't have a problem with the mask requirement. They keep a person from blasting droplets throughout the area around them, as the majority will stay near the infected person. Is it entirely effective? No, but that is why it should be used in a combination of other barriers such as keeping a distance from people. You combine all the barriers and you reduce the risk. Not remove the risk, but reduce it.

Sure it would be nice to replace them with real medical masks, but that is not possible. Do the best with what we have.

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

To me a mask is nothing but an inconvenience. A minor one at that too. Just my opinion, but I think many people have no clue what real inconvenience is. (This is not regarding anyone here. Just a general statement about society)

 

[Marcel]

Might be, but it's harder to breath for no gain and I'm a bit asthmatic. They do this against advices of the experts which makes it more political than anything else.

 

[Freebird]

Bit annoyed here. We now have to wear non-medical masks in public transportation our face a €90 fine although they know it's BS. Those non- medical masks are as effective as wearing a tinfoil hat. I'd rather have them focused on things that really help instead of this political BS.

Are you allowed to use a handkerchief if you dont have a mask?

New York, New Jersey and Pennsylvania have made wearing a mask mandatory in public places

I don't have a problem with the mask requirement. They keep a person from blasting droplets throughout the area around them, as the majority will stay near the infected person. .

It's easier to enforce than a "No inconsiderate infectious assholes" rule...

There was the case of the 50 yrs old bus driver in Detroit, after a woman got on the bus and coughed all over him he got sick and died 10 days later.
He had 6 kids.
Now they have to enforce basic courtesy in public.

Detroit bus driver Jason Hargrove dies days after making video about coughing passenger - CNN

 

[Marcel]

Masks are only good if you know how to handle them and if they are medical masks. Otherwise they only help spreading the virus. Most non-medical masks don't stop a significant amount of viruses when you sneeze or cough. Estimated for good masks is 10 to 30% which is as good as nothing. And then I'm not even talking about the Handkerchiefs or masks made out of scarves or socks. They just let you make a trail of virus particles like a breadcrumb trail.

 

[gumbyk]

Masks are only good if you know how to handle them and if they are medical masks. Otherwise they only help spreading the virus. Most non-medical masks don't stop a significant amount of viruses when you sneeze or cough. Estimated for good masks is 10 to 30% which is as good as nothing. And then I'm not even talking about the Handkerchiefs or masks made out of scarves or socks. They just let you make a trail of virus particles like a breadcrumb trail.

30% is a lot better than nothing... In fact I'd say it's a significant contributor to bringing transmission rates down
Given the number of people who are wearing medical masks improperly, I'd say that their effectiveness is probably around 30% for the general public.

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Might be, but it's harder to breath for no gain and I'm a bit asthmatic. They do this against advices of the experts which makes it more political than anything else.

Experts here are recommending the use of masks when in public. And yes it is political too. Those experts who are for it typically lean a certain way, those who lean the other way are against. I can actually only think of one expert who is advising against it, and he works in a political position.

Of course the CDC has flip flopped on this too.

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Masks are only good if you know how to handle them and if they are medical masks. Otherwise they only help spreading the virus. Most non-medical masks don't stop a significant amount of viruses when you sneeze or cough. Estimated for good masks is 10 to 30% which is as good as nothing. And then I'm not even talking about the Handkerchiefs or masks made out of scarves or socks. They just let you make a trail of virus particles like a breadcrumb trail.

I'm going to disagree. They are about protecting those around you. If you cough, and have a mask on, the particles are not going to blow wildly all over the place.

 

[gumbyk]

Experts here are recommending the use of masks when in public. And yes it is political too. Those experts who are for it typically lean a certain way, those who lean the other way are against. I can actually only think of one expert who is advising against it, and he works in a political position.

Of course the CDC has flip flopped on this too.

Our director General of Health and the Gov't have been consistent that they aren't mandatory. But, we got on top of it a lot earlier than most countries. Only two new cases in the last week.