Coronavirus Thread

Marcel said:

Here they found that people with mild symptomes had considerably less amount of anti-bodies in their blood. Not sure what it means, yet, but it might be that less symptomes correlate with a lower level of immunity.

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Yeah I am not reading anything about immunity. In fact I am reading that until a vaccine is developed this will not go away.

Basically, we don't know shit...

What to Know About Coronavirus Immunity and Chances of Reinfection

Yeah, that is quite accurate. It'a even more complicated than the amount of anti bodies. So basically, anti bodies recognise a part of the virus, which we call antigen. Once you've developed antibodies against a certain antigen, you'll be immune to viruses having that particular antibody for the rest of your life. However, the antigen in RNA based viruses tend to change. Hence you'll get ill of the flu every year again, although you're immune for last 's flu for the rest of your life.
we don't even know how fast this virus mutates, but given this is an RNA virus, is very possible it's as fast as the flu. Hence we can expect an epidemic every year.

Damn...

China, can we stop eating bats, cats, dogs, as well anything else just because it has a pulse? And can we change the way we treat and sell our food when it is still alive?

Italy report, 5 p.m. (CEST) 9th April
cases 143,626, new 4,204, deaths 18,279, new 610, recovered 28,470, new 1,979, tests 853,369, new 46,244
fatality rate 12.7%
mortality rate 303 per million
test rate 14.1 per thousand
test rate today 767 per million

Here's a couple of articles that might be worth reading.

Iceland is Doing Science — ~50% of People with COVID-19 Not Showing Symptoms, ~50% Have Very Moderate Cold Symptoms [UPDATED] | CleanTechnica
Iceland lab testing suggests 50% of coronavirus cases are asymptomatic - CNN

GrauGeist said:

Since I was employed in the automotive business, I had to go to work because we were deemed "essential", however, with a drastic reduction in customer income, I was not deemed essential to the company, so I was laid off today.

Great...

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Impact after an impact. Keep your chin up, Dave, and good luck.

Man, I have an all new respect for DHEC and other government inspectors of food stuff

Chris, again IMHO that you cannot even "see" an MD and receive a test is a terrible travesty. What about the VA? While "seeing" a specialist like my cardiologist or orthopedist is a "fat-chance-bunkie" proposition I can still get in to see my primary Physician or one of the GPs that work with him within days of a call and I'm assuming he could refer me to a testing site but that is conjecture on my part.
While I know that nothing really works against the virus itself there are supportive prescription drugs that work better the the OTC stuff like Prednisone and Nebulizer inhalation type drugs that can be very supportive.
Möge der gute Gott über dich wachen, dich beschützen und dich in seiner Hand halten

mikewint said:

Chris, again IMHO that you cannot even "see" an MD and receive a test is a terrible travesty. What about the VA? While "seeing" a specialist like my cardiologist or orthopedist is a "fat-chance-bunkie" proposition I can still get in to see my primary Physician or one of the GPs that work with him within days of a call and I'm assuming he could refer me to a testing site but that is conjecture on my part.
While I know that nothing really works against the virus itself there are supportive prescription drugs that work better the the OTC stuff like Prednisone and Nebulizer inhalation type drugs that can be very supportive.
Möge der gute Gott über dich wachen, dich beschützen und dich in seiner Hand halten

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Mike for the love of god, RELAX! I really appreciate your concern, but you need to chill. I am in touch with my Dr. She is advising me. No physicians office here in my area is seeing patients in person unless there is an emergency. It's great that is not the case down where you live, but that is not case where I live.

I don't need to see a specialist or any other Dr. unless my condition worsens. I am going through what 95% of other corona patients go through, and all of them are told to:

1. Take OTC Meds
2. Get rest.
3. Drink fluids.
4. STAY HOME

Thats it.

How are they supposed to give tests, when there are none in my area? Think about it.

LOL...one day I may unblock him, Here's an interesting site...COVID Near You

Wait, we can block people???????

3rd case in my town,
now is asymptomatic, is a 55 years old worker in ICU

Minnesota report, April 9
cases 1,242, recovered 675, hospitalized 293, deaths 50, tested 32,294*
fatality rate 4%
mortality rate 8.8 per million
tests rate 5.7 per thousand*
*Test kits are still in short supply, and are currently being used only for suspected COVID-19 cases and first responder/healthcare/medical personnel.

wuzak said:

Funny that here the price drop hasn't been nearly as much as it should. 10-20 cents per litre instead of the 40-50 it should have been.

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Same here in regional Qld. $1.29/l yesterday was the cheapest I saw going to and in town. ABC had an article on Sydney prices a few days back - ranged from 78c to $1.58/litre.

According to the Prime Minister to hoard is not Australian.

His silence on price gouging obviously means he considers that truly Australian.

Maybe this sums up his philosophy

MiTasol said:

Same here in regional Qld. $1.29/l yesterday was the cheapest I saw going to and in town. ABC had an article on Sydney prices a few days back - ranged from 78c to $158/litre.

According to the Prime Minister to hoard is not Australian.

His silence on price gouging obviously means he considers that truly Australian.

Maybe this sums up his philosophy

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Still $1.39/l at most places here. Down from $1.54-$1.59/l

Hey guys,

I thought that a similar report concerning the 1918 H1N1 'Spanish' flu pandemic might be interesting as a comparison to today's pandemic.

US report, 1918-1919***
cases ~25,500,000, recovered ?, hospitalized ?, deaths 555,000+, tested 0*
fatality rate 2.2%
mortality rate 5,388+ per million**
tests rate 0 per thousand*
*Test kits did not exist in 1918-1919.
**The US population was ~103,000,000 in 1918.
*** There were 3 waves, the first beginning in March 1918, the second in the fall of 1918, and the third in early-1919 - the third wave was relatively mild in the US.

Incidentally, the 'Spanish' flu did not originate in Spain. The first cases did not appear in Spain until [May 1918, two months]* after the first forensically confirmed cases of H1N1 in the US. The pandemic, however, is not considered to have begun in Spain until November 1918.*

It is possible (probable?) that the H1N1 virus responsible for the epidemic/pandemic originated in the US in the east coast region of New York, and was transported initially to military bases in the US and overseas via our soldiers sent to fight in WWI. In the 1800s and early-1900s the pigeon (aka squab) was routinely hunted (by the hundreds of millions, thus endeth the Passenger Pigeon) and eaten in restaurants on the east coast, as commonly as chicken is today. Pigeons for food were also raised in the same manner as chickens, with the advantage that the pigeon took up less space and resources and was therefor easier to raise in big cities. Humans were in close proximity and contact at a large scale, ideal for transmission of an inter-species virus (sound familiar?).

The first officially US recorded cases in Europe occurred in the early-summer of 1918, when doctors, accompanying reinforcements for the AEF, noted AEF soldiers displaying the symptoms onboard ship before arrival at Brest. The close confines of the troopships were a perfect place to spread the disease quickly (sound familiar?) among the soldiers.

Although the first cases were recorded in early-1918, the worldwide pandemic was not considered to have begun until late-summer to early-fall of 1918.

* My edit to reflect better information, it originally said "November 1918, eight months". And I added "The pandemic, however, is not considered to have begun in Spain until November 1918."