Coronavirus Thread

[buffnut453]

Methinks part of the problem is we're living in a soundbite world. Like the rest of us, journalists have become accustomed to just quoting the latest tweet or headline-grabbing comment.

Unfortunately, we're living through a long-term issue with no reliable estimate for how long it will go on. Eventually, you just run out of questions to ask...but journalists are paid to keep asking questions, so they do (even if the questions become inane and unanswerable).

 

[fubar57]

As mentioned elsewhere, my favorite daily question is, "Where do you think we'll be in a week from now?"

 

[ThomasP]

Hey fubar57,

Are you sure? My records show that there should be 29,834 parts...

 

[MiTasol]

From todays ProMed daily report (I edited out about 75% and just left the prologue and findings summary)

[4] Obesity as risk factor for severe disease
Date: Fri 10 Apr 2020
Source: Clinical Infectious Diseases [edited]
<https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance-article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciaa415/5818333>


ref: Lighter J, Phillips M, Hochman S, et al. Obesity in patients
younger than 60 years is a risk factor for COVID-19 hospital
admission. Clin Infect Dis. 2020. pii: ciaa415. doi:
10.1093/cid/ciaa415. [Epub ahead of print]
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Letter to the Editor:
Risk factors for infectious disease severity are determined by the
pathogen, host and environment [1]. COVID-19 disease, caused by
SARS-CoV-2 infection includes a spectrum of illness; from asymptomatic
infection [2] to severe pneumonia characterized by acute respiratory
injury in about 20% of patients presenting to medical care [3]. The
risk factors associated with disease severity, included increased age,
diabetes, immune suppression and organ failure [3]. Recognition of
risk factors for morbidity and mortality is important to determine
prevention strategies as well as to target high-risk populations for
potential therapeutics.

Though patients younger than 60 years are generally considered a lower
risk group of COVID-19 disease severity, based on data from our
institution, obesity appears to be a previously unrecognized risk
factor for hospital admission and need for critical care. This has
important and practical implications, where nearly 40% of adults in
the US are obese with a BMI equal to or greater than 30 [4]. The BMI
range of individuals in this study appears representative of the
nation, as 36% of the patients have a BMI of 30 or higher. There is
geographic variation in reported mortality, as South Korea, China, and
Italy report case fatality rates of 0.8, 2.3, and 7.2, respectively
[5] and regional risk factors such as prevalence of smoking,
pollution, or aging population has been cited. Unfortunately, obesity
in people younger than 60 years is a newly identified epidemiologic
risk factor which may contribute to increased morbidity rates
experienced in the US.

[References and table available at the source URL above]

 

[rochie]

Todays stupid question at the UK's daily briefing led by the Home Secretary.

"Where have you been for the last 3weeks ?

As if she's been sat at home awol doing nothing.......

 

[swampyankee]

Can we have all of the media types swim in drink the waste water? Plus we could send them to a facility with no ventilators when they get infected as they would be no loss. The I. Q. levels would greatly increase.

Let's try this with YEC politicians and those other politicians who think an MBA encompasses all knowledge.

 

[jetcal1]

What is making this so difficult is that we are in middle of allergy season. I have 5 cherry trees (not the edible kind) and 2 oak trees in my yard. The ground, and windows are covered in a green/yellow polen.

My Dr. told me that until my cough is gone I cannot leave quarantine. My cough is so mild and infrequent now that I cannot tell if it is coronavirus related, or because of the polen. This could last for weeks.

The only way to defeat this is through mass testing. Additionally we need to stop telling people in press conferences that there are plenty of tests. Its just another lie.

Sir, I believe there's some fairly good HEPA room purifiers available. And given that your lung cilia are currently not happy, it might help your recovery and reduce the chance of infection.

Might want to run that by your Doc.

 

[ThomasP]

Minnesota report, April 11
cases 1,427, recovered 793, hospitalized 340, deaths 64, tested 35,404*
fatality rate 4.5%
mortality rate 11.2 per million
tests rate 6.2 per thousand*
*Test kits are still in short supply, and are currently being used only for suspected COVID-19 cases and first responder/healthcare/medical personnel.

 

[at6]

As mentioned elsewhere, my favorite daily question is, "Where do you think we'll be in a week from now?"

Hopefully, still here and alive.

 

[GrauGeist]

"Where do you think we'll be in a week from now?"

Still trying to get my GD house (that I bought last summer) livable - plagues be damned.

 

[Vincenzo]

Italy report, 5 p.m. (CEST) 12th April
cases 156,363, new 4,092, deaths 19,899, new 431, recovered 34,211, new 1,677*, tests 1,010,193, new 46,720, * yesterday South Tyrol wrongly reported 110 more recovered, so today actually are 1787
fatality rate 12.7% (0.1* less of yesterday, if i remember right it's first time, *actually less for rounding)
mortality rate 330 per million
test rate 16.7 per thousand
today test rare 775 per million

adding 4th case in my town, the wife of the 3rd

 

[jetcal1]

Deleted. Posted on another thread!

 

[ThomasP]

My fingers are crossed Vincenzo (ie wishing Italy the best of luck).

 

[DerAdlerIstGelandet]

Italy report, 5 p.m. (CEST) 12th April
cases 156,363, new 4,092, deaths 19,899, new 431, recovered 34,211, new 1,677*, tests 1,010,193, new 46,720, * yesterday South Tyrol wrongly reported 110 more recovered, so today actually are 1787
fatality rate 12.7% (0.1* less of yesterday, if i remember right it's first time, *actually less for rounding)
mortality rate 330 per million
test rate 16.7 per thousand
today test rare 775 per million

adding 4th case in my town, the wife of the 3rd

It looks like you guys might be on the other side of the curve now though. 431 new deaths is substantially lower than yesterdays 619. Fewer new infections as well. Let's hope this trend continues.

 

[fubar57]

Take care Vincenzo

 

[michaelmaltby]

.... years ago City of Rome tested waste water and Tiber River water and discovered to their dismay that the citizenry liked cocaine . really like cocaine.
Such testing will be key going forward

 

[at6]

.... years ago City of Rome tested waste water and Tiber River water and discovered to their dismay that the citizenry liked cocaine . really like cocaine.
Such testing will be key going forward

So are we going to snort the Tiber?

 

[nsmekanik]

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Hey fubar57,

Are you sure? My records show that there should be 29,834 parts...

My car has 2 parts.......me and it, 3 if you count the oil change specialist.

Rumor has it the plant is running 160 short inside, this does not mean there is 160 cases or even 1 for that matter, but everyone gets a temp reading before entering the premises. In one of those rarities we all got an actual long weekend this weekend, normally there is no such thing as a long weekend at Cargil, or every weekend is a long weekend, depending on how you look at it. What it means I don't know, but considering how things have been dragging along and that we were supposed to be working every weekend maybe a sign of things having slowed down.

On the other hand the local grocery store is as busy as it's ever been, considering that much of the population was shopping else where before it's probably a boon for them. It appears that the grocery stores the next town up are also doing a fair business as well. How that relates to things at the plant I'm not sure as a lot of the production heads south of the border. The big box stores are open, Canadian Tire is offering curbside pick up with the option to order online or via email and I think by phone. Nobody is doing cash where we have been, took wifey out for an A&W snack and went through the drive through, nice to see her scrubbing the debit machine right after we used it. Of the few places we have gone to they have all the floors marked out and the plexiglass barriers up and the staff wearing gloves, no dining in although it is possible to go in and order in the fast food places. As much as I'd like to go pick up a few things at the hardware store('s) I've decided to not bother at this time and limit ourselves to the grocery store and the occasional coffee outing.

We've all been avoiding Mother like the plague lately, she's 80+ and lives alone still at home, the deal is if she needs something done I'll come over and do it, but we won't get close. As far as I am concerned I'd hate to go for a visit and 2 days later come down with the symptoms, that would kill me faster then the disease. Fortunately she's stocked up and has enough to keep herself occupied, but I know she misses her outings and visits. Her reaction to the Johns Hopkins thingy.

I can see that the internet can really distort so called info. Almost criminal activity. I don't like it.

Paying very little attention to the media as they are like a pack of hyenas circling a carcass in my opinion.

You all stay healthy and stay safe.

 

[MiTasol]

My car has 2 parts.......me and it, 3 if you count the oil change specialist.

Rumor has it the plant is running 160 short inside, this does not mean there is 160 cases or even 1 for that matter, but everyone gets a temp reading before entering the premises. In one of those rarities we all got an actual long weekend this weekend, normally there is no such thing as a long weekend at Cargil, or every weekend is a long weekend, depending on how you look at it. What it means I don't know, but considering how things have been dragging along and that we were supposed to be working every weekend maybe a sign of things having slowed down.

On the other hand the local grocery store is as busy as it's ever been, considering that much of the population was shopping else where before it's probably a boon for them. It appears that the grocery stores the next town up are also doing a fair business as well. How that relates to things at the plant I'm not sure as a lot of the production heads south of the border. The big box stores are open, Canadian Tire is offering curbside pick up with the option to order online or via email and I think by phone. Nobody is doing cash where we have been, took wifey out for an A&W snack and went through the drive through, nice to see her scrubbing the debit machine right after we used it. Of the few places we have gone to they have all the floors marked out and the plexiglass barriers up and the staff wearing gloves, no dining in although it is possible to go in and order in the fast food places. As much as I'd like to go pick up a few things at the hardware store('s) I've decided to not bother at this time and limit ourselves to the grocery store and the occasional coffee outing.

We've all been avoiding Mother like the plague lately, she's 80+ and lives alone still at home, the deal is if she needs something done I'll come over and do it, but we won't get close. As far as I am concerned I'd hate to go for a visit and 2 days later come down with the symptoms, that would kill me faster then the disease. Fortunately she's stocked up and has enough to keep herself occupied, but I know she misses her outings and visits. Her reaction to the Johns Hopkins thingy.


Paying very little attention to the media as they are like a pack of hyenas circling a carcass in my opinion.

You all stay healthy and stay safe.

What have you got against hyenas? They are an important part of the food chain in the wild. On the other hand the media are getting less important by the day

 

[rochie]

The BBC was putting out race angled stories about the virus yesterday

And lots of mentions of medical supply stock being low, well I'm not an expert but if just about the whole world is using more of everything stock levels will be lower !
Never actually said anything had ran out, just trying to spread fear and discontent i believe!