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It still stands.
Without the US, the Commonwealth and USSR could only hope for an armistice at worst, or a Russian victory at best.
With the US, victory was assured.
Instal said, "It is a peoples resolve that determines the outcome of war."
Tell that to the Japanese.
I can't believe I have to qualify every single word. Given a situation that does not include being devastaded by nuclear weapons a peoples resolve can determine the outcome of war and if you don't believe it ask the Russians about the Afghans.
How about "without peoples resolve your going to be defeeted"... It sure tuff without it...
While this is very true it does not go far enough.
I can't believe Haztoys has to qualify every single word ...
The PTO was run by the U.S, but the CBI (Where more Japanese fought.) was run by the British Commonwealth and Chinese. The two theatres go hand in hand; and it was an Allied effort for victory.
Without the Royal Navy, the U.S would not have a chance in Europe. Their navy, while large, was not large enough to take on Japan, Germany and Italy. The USN was largely dealing with the IJN, while the Royal Navy dealt with Germany and Italy.
Why do people choose to forget areas of the war to bolster... something... in their own mind.
Ouch. You gotta love pD when he gets on a roll.
planD..The Terminator......I would think by now Syscom3 would know this...
Without the CBI or a victory in India, Japan would have opened a vital trading station and reduced it's needs in the CBI providing more shipping, sailors and soldiers for the war against the U.S. If you, honestly, believe that the CBI had no affect on the U.S 'steam-roller' then you're deluded and frankly should be ignored.
On the same point of Italy and North Africa; I'd like to see what your strategy for the war would have been. The fall of North Africa would have opened up oil, shipping lines and bases of operation for the Axis forces. The Atlantic would have been more extensively covered by Axis forces, and more resources would have been available (air and land) for operations against the Soviet Union.
More importantly to the naval aspect of things, the Italian Navy would have then been allowed free roam in the oceans and opened a whole new vault of problems in the Allied shipping.
There's something seriously wrong with your outlook if you believe that the Allies could have simply abandoned the CBI, North Africa and Italy and still achieved total victory. Do you honestly believe that if North Africa and Italy had fallen to the Axis, then Overlord would have been possible?
Only an absolute assh*le would ask this question in the first place, but an even larger retard would try to demote the efforts of the nations involved as meaningless because the U.S could, apparently, have done it all on their own.
No matter how much turd flies from your fingers while you type, it's obvious to anyone with sense that the Commonwealth and Soviet Union combined could have achieved eventual victory against an over-stretched Third Reich. Look beyond World War II, and see time and time again the collapse of seemingly invincible structures and powers.
And then just look at the power of the Commonwealth, it's industrial wealth and manpower. The Germans and Japanese combined did not have the strength to project their power in all directions.
The U.S.A made World War II a hell of a lot easier for total victory for the Allies - their contribution to the war effort will never be forgotten , but they did NOT save Europe. They helped Britain and her Commonwealth achieve total victory in Western Europe.
But this won't convince, because Germany was invincible - British victories in North Africa, BoB and Atlantic can be ignored so you can bolster your argument.
Stop trying to bolster yourself with the Stars and Stripes, sys. National pride is okay, but when you're using your nations flag to hide the fact you're lacking isn't even funny.