NFL 2009 Thread

DerAdlerIstGelandet · Oct 19, 2009

KMeyrick said:
The pats score again and CBS freakin changes the game!!!!

unfreaking believable- I mean really, who wants to watch the Jets???

I would rather watch the Jets than a boring blow out...

Bucksnort101 · Oct 19, 2009

Vikings got lucky yesterday. They had the game pretty much in hand until the 4th quarter, then once again let the opponent back into the game. This team can't seem to put together a full 4 quarters of football and jiust implode in the second half or in the forth quarted when they have a lead, granted they still won, but they were darn lucky.

Pass defense is suspect, and teams are starting to figure out how to run against them, don't go up the middle, but hit the ends or a quick screen to Jared Allen's side of the line.

ToughOmbre · Oct 19, 2009

Thorlifter said:
The Giants D is a fraud???? I don't know if I would go that far, but coming from a Jet's fan, I understand where your coming from. I have to route for the Giants, just because they play against the Cowturds.

I do believe Sanchez has the ability to become quite a player in the NFL, he just had a bad day. Hopefully he won't turn into Vince Young after this.

I am a Jets fan and I hate the Giants, but I did pick the Giants to go to the Super Bowl this year.

"Fraud" may be a little stong but through six weeks only 13 teams (out of 32) have given up more points than the G Men. And when you consider their schedule so far (four bad teams, KC, Oakland, Wash, TB) and the fact that the two good teams they played (Cowboys and Saints) lit them up for 79 points, you gotta question their D.

I'll take the Jets D over the Giants D any day.

TO

Njaco · Oct 19, 2009

freakin' Eagles.

can somebody tell Andy Reid that this is the National Football League and not a stinkin' High School Championship!!!!!

diddyriddick · Oct 19, 2009

As an aside, did any of ya'll think it was incredibly boneheaded to let Brady start the second half under center with a 45 point lead?

B-17engineer · Oct 19, 2009

In school today, my teacher was like, "Although the Creek Indians were defeated, they still tried." My friend shouts out,"Like the Titans?"

Bucksnort101 · Oct 19, 2009

B-17engineer said:
In school today, my teacher was like, "Although the Creek Indians were defeated, they still tried." My friend shouts out,"Like the Titans?"

Smart assenheimer teenagers

Messy1 · Oct 19, 2009

B-17engineer said:
In school today, my teacher was like, "Although the Creek Indians were defeated, they still tried." My friend shouts out,"Like the Titans?"

Damn funny!

KMeyrick · Oct 19, 2009

B-17engineer said:
In school today, my teacher was like, "Although the Creek Indians were defeated, they still tried." My friend shouts out,"Like the Titans?"

love it!!!!

It's like the commentators comment later on ESPN... "Oh look- a flea flicker.... this confused the Titans........... for the whole rest of the game!"

bahawaaaha

KMeyrick · Oct 19, 2009

diddyriddick said:
As an aside, did any of ya'll think it was incredibly boneheaded to let Brady start the second half under center with a 45 point lead?

Uh. nope.

THe offense needed to come out of the locker room and play.

Make sure everyone still has their head in the game... and that things are still going your way. THEN pull the key guys when it's determined the other team still thinks it's a high school game.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · Oct 20, 2009

The Patriots will fail in the playoffs anyhow. They will always be remembered as the team that could not finish it.

B-17engineer · Oct 20, 2009

beaupower32 · Oct 20, 2009

DerAdlerIstGelandet said:
The Patriots will fail in the playoffs anyhow. They will always be remembered as the team that could not finish it.

I bet their Wives feel that way too!

DerAdlerIstGelandet · Oct 20, 2009

Well I am sitting at home right now recovering from the flu. Much better now, but I still am bored out of my ass. So I got to thinking about what the most successful teams in NFL history were. I decided to come up with a system of points to determine who was the most successful.

To make things fair, I decided only to inlclude the Super Bowl era. I did this because most NFC teams are much much older than the AFC teams (Some by 30 years). If I included prior to the Super Bowl years it would been very uneven and biased toward the NFC. So to get a better picture, I limited it to the Super Bowl era (1966 season to present).

Here is how I awarded points:
Super Bowl Win - 10 pts each
Super Bowl Loss - 5 pts each
NFC/AFC Championship Game Appearance - 4 pts each
Division Title - 3 pts each
Playoff Appearance - 2 pts each
Every 10 Wins (since 1966) - 1 pt each

Here are the results:

1. Dallas Cowboys – 292
2. Pittsburgh Steelers – 260
3. San Francisco 49ers – 227
4. Oakland Raiders – 215 (includes LA Raiders)
5. Minnesota Vikings – 205
6. Miami Dolphins – 184
7. Denver Broncos – 174
8. St. Louis Rams – 172 (includes LA Rams)
9. New England Patriots – 167
10. Indianapolis Colts – 155 (includes Baltimore Colts)
11. Green Bay Packers – 153
12. Washington Redskins – 150
13. Buffalo Bills – 127
14. New York Giants - 123
15. Philadelphia Eagles – 122
16. Chicago Bears - 116
17. Tennessee Titans – 111 (inlcudes Houston Oilers)
18. Kansas City Chiefs – 109
19. Cleveland Browns – 108
20. San Diego Chargers – 105
21. New York Jets – 88
22. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – 81
23. Cincinnati Bengals – 79
24. Seattle Seahawks – 76
25. Atlanta Falcons – 72
26. Arizona Cardinals – 59 (includes St. Louis Cardinals)
27. New Orleans Saints – 51
28. Baltimore Ravens – 46 (active only 13 seasons)
29. Carolina Panthers – 45 (active only 14 seasons)
30. Detroit Lions – 42
31. Jacksonville Jaguars – 38 (active only 14 seasons)
32. Houston Texans – 4 (active only 7 seasons)

Messy1 · Oct 20, 2009

Interesting idea Chris. Are you sure your math is right on the 49ers? Their score looks a little low!

ToughOmbre · Oct 20, 2009

Interesting formula Chris but I have to say it is mathematically flawed in this regard .....

To me, success equals NFL Championships.

Long story short. You've got the Vikings number 5, they've never won a championship and ranked above these teams.....

6. Miami Dolphins – 2 Championships
7. Denver Broncos – 2
9. New England Patriots – 3
10. Indianapolis Colts – 2
11. Green Bay Packers – 3
12. Washington Redskins – 3
14. New York Giants - 3

I know you're looking at the regular season and playoffs, but I don't know anyone who follows the NFL that would say the Vikings are more successful than the above listed multiple championship winners.

TO

DerAdlerIstGelandet · Oct 20, 2009

Messy1 said:
Interesting idea Chris. Are you sure your math is right on the 49ers? Their score looks a little low!

Nope that is correct. What dropped them is the fact that they made it only to 5 Super Bowls. Both the Steelers and the Cowboys have been to more Super Bowls.

ToughOmbre said:
Interesting formula Chris but I have to say it is mathematically flawed in this regard .....

To me, success equals NFL Championships.

Long story short. You've got the Vikings number 5, they've never won a championship and ranked above these teams.....

6. Miami Dolphins – 2 Championships
7. Denver Broncos – 2
9. New England Patriots – 3
10. Indianapolis Colts – 2
11. Green Bay Packers – 3
12. Washington Redskins – 3
14. New York Giants - 3

I know you're looking at the regular season and playoffs, but I don't know anyone who follows the NFL that would say the Vikings are more successful than the above listed multiple championship winners.

TO

Actually you are correct. For some reason I counted their 4 Super Bowl losses and wins. They received 40 points for winning Championships instead of receiving only 20 points for appearing in 4 Super Bowls. But that still leaves them in the place that they are in. Like i said though, I am including all factors of regular season, and playoff games.

Here is the updated list:

1. Dallas Cowboys – 292
2. Pittsburgh Steelers – 260
3. San Francisco 49ers – 227
4. Oakland Raiders – 215 (includes LA Raiders)
5. Minnesota Vikings – 185
6. Miami Dolphins – 184
7. Denver Broncos – 174
8. St. Louis Rams – 172 (includes LA Rams)
9. New England Patriots – 167
10. Indianapolis Colts – 155 (includes Baltimore Colts)
11. Green Bay Packers – 153
12. Washington Redskins – 150
13. Buffalo Bills – 127
14. New York Giants - 123
15. Philadelphia Eagles – 122
16. Chicago Bears - 116
17. Tennessee Titans – 111 (inlcudes Houston Oilers)
18. Kansas City Chiefs – 109
19. Cleveland Browns – 108
20. San Diego Chargers – 105
21. New York Jets – 88
22. Tampa Bay Buccaneers – 81
23. Cincinnati Bengals – 79
24. Seattle Seahawks – 76
25. Atlanta Falcons – 72
26. Arizona Cardinals – 59 (includes St. Louis Cardinals)
27. New Orleans Saints – 51
28. Baltimore Ravens – 46 (active only 13 seasons)
29. Carolina Panthers – 45 (active only 14 seasons)
30. Detroit Lions – 42
31. Jacksonville Jaguars – 38 (active only 14 seasons)
32. Houston Texans – 4 (active only 7 seasons)

diddyriddick · Oct 20, 2009

Interesting, Chris. I pity the Detroit Lions fans!

DerAdlerIstGelandet · Oct 20, 2009

Yeah it is pretty bad when there are teams that are more successful but have less time in the league....

B-17engineer · Oct 20, 2009

That's actually really cool!

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