Matt308
Glock Perfection
Definitely wasn't 5.56x45. Definitely.
Somali Hijackers
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GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
Think they were using 7.62 or .300?
I'm thinking a possible solution would be the convoy method. Have merchant ships group at a designated area and proceed with an escort thru the targeted area. Atleast you would have control of the enviroment and a pretty good chance of being consistant with controlling the pirates.
Think they are doing that now. Many ships avoid convoying because they have to wait for one to form and that may take days. Each day cost tens of thousands of dollars. So, the Captians just jack up the speed and try to run through. That also costs money but the cost is not as great as sitting.
All a dollars and sense issue.
renrich
Chief Master Sergeant
Article in latest "American Rifleman" about a new Barrett rifle in 338 Lapua. A potent weapon. That rifle could have been what was used but probably not. I would be surprised if an M16 was used, especially if there was a windshield. Interesting how history connects. The Navy DD, Bainbridge, is named for a USN Captain, who, if memory serves was once CO of USS Constitution and may have fought against pirates from Tripoli. "Millions for defense, not one cent for tribute."
Read that article in the Rifleman also,nice. What the Navy used will be total speculation until somebody leaks it or a report gets released, could of been anything in their inventory, from 5.56 to .50...... I would think that not knowing exactly what yardage they would be shooting from I would bet either .308 or .300win mag.
US food aid ship escapes Somali pirate attack
I guess a ship and crew can fetch a million dollars. No wonder they are concerned about the Navy intervening with this lucrative extortion. Arming ships with 20mm and 40mm guns would help alot. Even a M2 would be great.
Vassili Zaitzev
Master Sergeant
I think we need to step up going after these thugs.
"Canadian warship based at Canadian Forces Base Esquimalt thwarted a pirate attack in the Arabian Sea Saturday and on Sunday came to the rescue of Somali refugees.
HMCS Winnipeg, part of a NATO-led counter-piracy mission known as Operation Allied Protector, saw three small pirate skiffs closing in on an Indian merchant vessel, the Pacific Opal, in the Gulf of Aden.
The warship was escorting another vessel nearby when the Pacific Opal radioed for help.
The Canadian ship's commanding officer, Cmdr. Craig Baines, immediately ordered the ship's Sea King helicopter to investigate. The helicopter flew between the threatened vessel and the pirates to scare them away.
The helicopter crew hung a two-foot-by-three-foot red stop sign from the side of the aircraft that says "Stop" in Somali.
"We hung it right beside (the chopper's) C-6 machine gun and they (got) the idea that we don't like what they're doing," said Baines, in an interview with the Times Colonist from the ship Sunday.
It was enough to make the skiffs pull back, but the helicopter stayed with the vessel until the pirates were no longer a threat.
Pirates are common along the coast of Somalia, threatening commercial vessels travelling through the Horn of Africa, said Baines.
He said the pirates try to overtake a ship and hold it ransom until the owner gives them money.
"There's huge amounts of money at play so they are willing to take large risks to be successful," said Baines.
But pirates are deterred by any military presence because they know the navy can overpower them, said Baines.
"They want nothing to do with us, so as soon as we come on scene, they'll break away and do something else," he said.
The pirates often disguise themselves as fishermen, he said.
They are often toting AK-47s or grenade launchers, but Baines said there was no indication these men had weapons.
Baines said he was surprised to see so much action since the crew just arrived in the Gulf April 2.
"This highlights the importance of our mission and the efforts to make a difference with our coalition partners in the fight against piracy and international terrorism," said Lt.-Gen. Michel Gauthier, commander of Canadian Expeditionary Force Command, in a news release.
A day after warding off the pirates, HMCS Winnipeg brought supplies to a vessel full of hungry and thirsty Somali refugees who had been at sea for two days.
The helicopter crew spotted an overcrowded vessel of 51 people including women, children and a baby, trying to get from Somalia to Yemen.
HMCS Winnipeg, with a crew of about 240 officers and non-commissioned members, has been at sea since Feb. 5 and is expected to return to Esquimalt Aug. 21.
The majority of the crew's families are in the Victoria-area, said Baines, who is originally from Comox, B.C."
kinda like this reponse
HMCS Winnipeg, part of a NATO-led counter-piracy mission known as Operation Allied Protector, saw three small pirate skiffs closing in on an Indian merchant vessel, the Pacific Opal, in the Gulf of Aden.
The warship was escorting another vessel nearby when the Pacific Opal radioed for help.
The Canadian ship's commanding officer, Cmdr. Craig Baines, immediately ordered the ship's Sea King helicopter to investigate. The helicopter flew between the threatened vessel and the pirates to scare them away.
The helicopter crew hung a two-foot-by-three-foot red stop sign from the side of the aircraft that says "Stop" in Somali.
"We hung it right beside (the chopper's) C-6 machine gun and they (got) the idea that we don't like what they're doing," said Baines, in an interview with the Times Colonist from the ship Sunday.
It was enough to make the skiffs pull back, but the helicopter stayed with the vessel until the pirates were no longer a threat.
Pirates are common along the coast of Somalia, threatening commercial vessels travelling through the Horn of Africa, said Baines.
He said the pirates try to overtake a ship and hold it ransom until the owner gives them money.
"There's huge amounts of money at play so they are willing to take large risks to be successful," said Baines.
But pirates are deterred by any military presence because they know the navy can overpower them, said Baines.
"They want nothing to do with us, so as soon as we come on scene, they'll break away and do something else," he said.
The pirates often disguise themselves as fishermen, he said.
They are often toting AK-47s or grenade launchers, but Baines said there was no indication these men had weapons.
Baines said he was surprised to see so much action since the crew just arrived in the Gulf April 2.
"This highlights the importance of our mission and the efforts to make a difference with our coalition partners in the fight against piracy and international terrorism," said Lt.-Gen. Michel Gauthier, commander of Canadian Expeditionary Force Command, in a news release.
A day after warding off the pirates, HMCS Winnipeg brought supplies to a vessel full of hungry and thirsty Somali refugees who had been at sea for two days.
The helicopter crew spotted an overcrowded vessel of 51 people including women, children and a baby, trying to get from Somalia to Yemen.
HMCS Winnipeg, with a crew of about 240 officers and non-commissioned members, has been at sea since Feb. 5 and is expected to return to Esquimalt Aug. 21.
The majority of the crew's families are in the Victoria-area, said Baines, who is originally from Comox, B.C."
kinda like this reponse
RabidAlien
1st Lieutenant
Rock on, Canada! 
Erich
the old Sage
the idiot-sticks in the small inflatables are really trying to get world fear now by threatening US coastal shipping............. big talk, interesting scenarios will happen very soon for them
Messy1
Master Sergeant
Agree Erich, fairly soon, because of their threats and the fact they have stepped up their attempted hijackings, these morons will have to deal with the combined might of a several nation Navy coming down on them, if not just the US Navy.
evangilder
"Shooter"
Messy1
Master Sergeant
That's damn funny and all too true! Good one Evan!
ToughOmbre
Senior Master Sergeant
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
Good ones.
Bill G.
Banned
Those are very good!
One of these days the pirates are going to learn don't mess with any ships flying the Stars and Stripes.
The only good Pirates play for Pittsburgh. The rest are just future fish food.
Bill G.
One of these days the pirates are going to learn don't mess with any ships flying the Stars and Stripes.
The only good Pirates play for Pittsburgh. The rest are just future fish food.
Bill G.
