33k in the air
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I guess much was spent putting stuff into the B-32 and then taking it out.
B-17 | Airframe | Engines | Propellers | GFE | Ordnance | Comms | Total | Notes |
28-Feb-43 | $ 111,443 | $ 34,287 | $ 3,400 | $ 45,606 | $ 4,595 | $ 9,040 | $ 208,371 | Costs based on weighted average of uncompleted contracts |
31-Jul-44 | $ 157,484 | $ 37,480 | $ 11,755 | $ 48,939 | $ 5,999 | $ 10,305 | $ 271,962 | Costs are weighted average of all Army contracts from 1939 to date |
31-Aug-44 | $ 129,150 | $ 35,521 | $ 11,247 | $ 47,425 | $ 5,966 | $ 9,040 | $ 238,349 | Costs based on uncompleted contracts |
30-Nov-44 | $ 125,464 | $ 34,875 | $ 6,487 | $ 46,413 | $ 5,686 | $ 9,040 | $ 227,965 | Costs based on uncompleted contracts |
B-24 | Airframe | Engines | Propellers | GFE | Ordnance | Comms | Total | Notes |
28-Feb-43 | $ 115,338 | $ 32,659 | $ 4,220 | $ 49,781 | $ 3,205 | $ 8,474 | $ 213,677 | Costs based on weighted average of uncompleted contracts |
31-Jul-44 | $ 169,452 | $ 36,539 | $ 12,899 | $ 49,034 | $ 4,726 | $ 9,752 | $ 282,402 | Costs are weighted average of all Army contracts from 1939 to date |
31-Aug-44 | $ 138,585 | $ 33,363 | $ 13,004 | $ 47,956 | $ 4,520 | $ 8,474 | $ 245,902 | Costs based on uncompleted contracts |
30-Nov-44 | $ 114,951 | $ 34,497 | $ 8,663 | $ 48,288 | $ 4,505 | $ 8,474 | $ 219,378 | Costs based on uncompleted contracts |
B-29 | Airframe | Engines | Propellers | GFE | Ordnance | Comms | Total | Notes |
28-Feb-43 | $ 362,347 | $ 101,685 | $ 10,328 | $ 125,341 | $ 4,836 | $ 34,738 | $ 639,275 | Costs based on weighted average of uncompleted contracts |
31-Jul-44 | $ 478,180 | $ 100,406 | $ 12,181 | $ 125,919 | $ 5,525 | $ 34,738 | $ 756,949 | Costs are weighted average of all Army contracts from 1939 to date |
31-Aug-44 | $ 469,269 | $ 100,406 | $ 12,433 | $ 125,863 | $ 5,526 | $ 34,738 | $ 748,235 | Airframe and engine costs subject to revision. Costs based on uncompleted contracts |
30-Nov-44 | $ 434,512 | $ 101,877 | $ 13,628 | $ 124,787 | $ 5,531 | $ 34,738 | $ 715,073 | Costs based on uncompleted contracts |
B-32 | Airframe | Engines | Propellers | GFE | Ordnance | Comms | Total | Notes |
28-Feb-43 | $ 522,613 | $ 101,685 | $ 23,310 | $ 68,947 | $ 3,247 | $ 34,150 | $ 753,952 | Costs based on weighted average of uncompleted contracts |
31-Jul-44 | $ 540,305 | $ 100,406 | $ 18,000 | $ 68,734 | $ 4,624 | $ 34,150 | $ 766,219 | Costs are weighted average of all Army contracts from 1939 to date |
31-Aug-44 | $ 522,661 | $ 100,406 | $ 20,841 | $ 66,491 | $ 4,624 | $ 34,150 | $ 749,173 | Costs based on uncompleted contracts |
30-Nov-44 | $ 522,816 | $ 101,877 | $ 24,892 | $ 71,208 | $ 4,624 | $ 34,150 | $ 759,567 | Costs based on uncompleted contracts |
P-61 | Airframe | Engines | Propellers | GFE | Ordnance | Comms | Total | Notes |
28-Feb-43 | $ 154,899 | $ 44,714 | $ 6,352 | $ 14,507 | $ 4,684 | $ 19,758 | $ 244,914 | Costs based on weighted average of uncompleted contracts |
31-Jul-44 | $ 191,831 | $ 49,392 | $ 11,841 | $ 18,144 | $ 6,308 | $ 19,918 | $ 297,434 | Costs are weighted average of all Army contracts from 1939 to date |
30-Nov-44 | $ 147,960 | $ 44,729 | $ 9,720 | $ 17,611 | $ 6,245 | $ 19,758 | $ 246,023 | Costs based on uncompleted contracts |
Aircraft Unit costs, US Archives Record Group 18 Entry 10 Box 68. GFE = Government Furnished Equipment. In August and November 1944 there were 713 B-32 on order from Fort Worth and 500 from San Diego, 1 B-32 accepted in September and 1 in November. In August all 4 B-29 lines were delivering aircraft against approved formal contracts for 5,800.
The OP makes a statement, to prove the statement it does a comprehensive survey of all other WW2 bombers (B-24 and Mosquito) and concludes that the B-17 was trash compared to the magnificent B-24. To me it is just tabloid fan boy nonsense.So I'm guessing the answer to the OP is no.
It would have if Hap Arnold hadnt written that memo in April 1939.The P-47 could have replaced all of them.
The P-39 could have replaced all of them.
Well the Russians were so happy with P-39s they never asked for any B-17sFixed for accuracy.
When you start life known as a Caribou, it is uphill all the way, but it has eventually managed it.The P39 has gained immortality on here!
For the US, the war started on Dec 7, 1941. And the P38 was in use on that date.P-38 was not in service when the war started.
And they got B-29s samples for free to retro engineer the Tu-4.Well the Russians were so happy with P-39s they never asked for any B-17s
There must be many reasons why the B-17 got so much good press. All the advertising prowess in the world wouldn't be able to "pump up" a plane like the Lerwick or Me-210.
I used to watch 12 O'Clock High with my dad when I was a kid. Some of my most cherished memories. FLBOYJ and I hijacked a thread about B-17 nose art discussing "Angel Babe" and my first love, the Piccadilly Lilly. To my joy, through The Forum, I found out Piccadilly Lilly lives. She's at the Planes of Fame Museum in Chino, California.