Wrecks of Dutch warships have disappeared

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The wrecks the cruisers De Hr.Ms Ruyter and Hr.Ms Java have disappeared from the place where they were found in 2002. Both ships had a major role in the Battle of the Java sea, De Ruyter being the flagship of the fleet, in 1942 and were sunk by the Japanese. The wrecks were found in 2002. Now with the 75th birthday of the battle, divers tried to find them again, only to discover the wrecks were gone. According to the article below the impression of the hulls are clearly visible in the seabed, but the wrecks are gone. It looks like there has been a secret salvation. Can't tell you how shocked I am. These ships were war graves for hundreds of men. Hope the catch the bastards who did this.


See the google translate version of the article:
Nederlandse oorlogswrakken lijken van bodem Javazee verdwenen
 
Doesn't seem likely. They should have been found in the vicinity then as it's not that deep down there. Dutch government seems to think they are secretly salvaged and sold.
 
if currents had shifted the wrecks, or geological activity, either would have disturbed the hull impressions on the bottom ... but these are still intact
 
if currents had shifted the wrecks, or geological activity, either would have disturbed the hull impressions on the bottom ... but these are still intact

yeah..i agree. I have seen storms break wrecks in half and move them great distances. had they been moved by strong currents then there should be a trail in the seabed showing them moving in a direction OR the impressions should have been wiped out. if the wrecks were salvaged there should also be some marks. I don't think someone is going to lift the entire hull off of the seafloor in one piece. there is a lot of suction holding it in place after all these years. there should be evidence of the hull being cut and sectioned. there should also be slag from cutting torches. then again they are going solely by interpretations of sonar images they need more to investigate this they need ROVs or a sub ( if its shallow enough )
 
There's probably more of this sh!t going on than we'd like to know. However, if there was not a thriving market for artifacts then it's possible those wrecks might still be there.

Anyone thinking of buying stuff off e-bay or specialty sites might want to ask themselves where this stuff comes from.
 
That's right. A couple of years ago, parts from a sunken Dutch submarine were sold in Australia. So it is not the first time.
The Dutch authorities really think these wrecks are stolen. I don't think they would say that if they did not have some evidence to back that up. I still cannot imagine how that was pulled off. I mean, Dr Ruyter was 170 meters Long. Not really a small wreck.
@Bernhardt, which ship was he on?
 

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