Matt308
Glock Perfection
Mr. HaW*********, what unit did you serve with, what was your MOD, and PEX?
British Sailors seized by Iran.
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Milos Sijacki
Senior Airman
I know this is no concern of mine, but lets not rush this. I think the war is what they really want, Iranians I mean. Don't rush, remember Egypt and Suez Canal crisis??
trackend
Chief Master Sergeant
Ajax
Airman 1st Class
Yep, they are putting words in their mouths for sure. The BBC's Have your say is also interesting, for once the most recommended course of action is a 48 hour ultimatum and then a declaration of war rather than the normal weak ass sh*t that is normally seen there (and America bashing) - this can been seen further down though (the main one being from a French person 
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BBC NEWS | Have Your Say | Can UK and Iran resolve their difference?
)BBC NEWS | Have Your Say | Can UK and Iran resolve their difference?
Yep, they are putting words in their mouths for sure. The BBC's Have your say is also interesting, for once the most recommended course of action is a 48 hour ultimatum and then a declaration of war rather than the normal weak ass sh*t that is normally seen there (and America bashing) - this can been seen further down though (the main one being from a French person
BBC NEWS | Have Your Say | Can UK and Iran resolve their difference?
Looked for the Frenchy post, didn't see it.
lesofprimus
Brigadier General
Added: Saturday, 24 March, 2007, 12:37 GMT 12:37 UK
If Iranian sailors entered British waters, the British would arrest the Iranians. The Iranians would then protest that they had not been in British waters; but the British public would not believe that.
That is exactly what has happened but in reverse.
So what should be done? Nothing. It'll all blow over.
E Taylor, PARIS
If Iranian sailors entered British waters, the British would arrest the Iranians. The Iranians would then protest that they had not been in British waters; but the British public would not believe that.
That is exactly what has happened but in reverse.
So what should be done? Nothing. It'll all blow over.
E Taylor, PARIS
That's one way of looking at it. Not sure I agree with it. Don't think the Brits would hold them, put them on TV, threaten them with a trial....ect, ect. And you surely wouldn't have the lone female in the group forced to dress as the Brits thought she should. Nah, not the same thing in reverse.
Watch oil prices, they're generally a good indicator of how the world feels and if it wil blow over. Right now they are holding steady in the mid 60s. Were down a little yesterday after running up for about a week.
Thanks for finding it Les.
renrich
Chief Master Sergeant
Mkloby, of course you are right in your post on impeachment but Congress alone has the power to declare war. Of course now we are not in an officially declared war, which would give the President more powers than he currently has. If Bush were to send troops to aid Britain in any action against Iran, he could never get the Congress to agree to that action. Then the Dems would claim he declared war without the required consent of Congress and I have no doubt that they would start impeachment proceedings. In fact, I have no doubt that if the Dem leadership thought they had the votes they would start the impeachment process today and unfortunately there would be some Republicans who would back them.
Because they have only seen the bullshit media and what the liberals want them to see. They have not seen the training camps that were in Iraq before we went in. I have...
mkloby
Senior Master Sergeant
I'm more of the position of screw the war powers act. The democrats think that each one of them is a mini commander in chief...
Legislature has the authority to declare a state of war - not to conduct war. They have power of appropriation - if they want to cease a conflict, cut off funding.
renrich
Chief Master Sergeant
I agree with you Mkloby about your opinion of the war powers act but I am not sure that the dems are trying to micro-manage the war but rather use the Iraq situation as a club to beat Bush with and to try to gain more power. If the dems win the presidency and still control congress it will be interesting to see how they conduct this war against radical islam. The dems keep saying that the people in the US want the US out of Iraq now as proven by the midterm elections. I do not believe that is true of the majority of American voters. I think they are unhappy with the progress of the war but most know the danger of pulling out prematurely. What is frustrating to me is that all this political BS that is going on here where the dems are trying to maneuver for votes is giving encouragement to our enemies.
Good post Ren. As somebody once said about another politician, "He doesn't care which way the bus is going, as long as he is driving". Same can be said of a lot of the Dems in Congress, especially the far left bunch.
Erich
the old Sage
we have talked previously many times if the US pulls out of the mideast what recourse action the mideastern foes will take. Jihad will blow open wide .........
someone wrote me from Israel this morn saying that the head dildo in Tehran is now personally involved with the capture of the British and that he claims the British knew they were in Iranian waters and must suffer the consequences.......whatever that means.
someone wrote me from Israel this morn saying that the head dildo in Tehran is now personally involved with the capture of the British and that he claims the British knew they were in Iranian waters and must suffer the consequences.......whatever that means.
mkloby
Senior Master Sergeant
There've been reports of an persian ambassador talking of trying them for trespassing or something to that effect. Said amb. subsequently denied that there is thought of a trial. I'd like to see how those in Britain that support a foreign policy with the strength of a 1 legged puppy react... I'm sure they'd still have an enlightened reason to not have ANY sort of military response.
Matt308
Glock Perfection
I say give the Iranians what they want.
Well to answer my critics..
There's a right time for everything... and it's not after a couple of days...
In the Cold war with Russia, when they captured an American agent did you Americans make a big issue of it ?
No of course not, because it's not the way to get them back..
We are not at war... whatever you read. War I gather is a lot rougher... shouldn't you guys know that ?
The battlelines are being drawn, the oponents are taking sides,, don't rush into this.. and don't any American or Canadian or whoever think that the Brits are soft, timing is everything.
We Brits are made of stronger stuff, and right now it takes a strong man to stay talking... but when the **** hits the fan you can bet your house on us being in the middle of it.. it's not going to take us 2 years to get involved.
Yes I'm intelligent....(I can't spell tho) probably more than some of those calling for us to launch an attack.. I guess those are the breaks
Simon
There's a right time for everything... and it's not after a couple of days...
In the Cold war with Russia, when they captured an American agent did you Americans make a big issue of it ?
No of course not, because it's not the way to get them back..
We are not at war... whatever you read. War I gather is a lot rougher... shouldn't you guys know that ?
The battlelines are being drawn, the oponents are taking sides,, don't rush into this.. and don't any American or Canadian or whoever think that the Brits are soft, timing is everything.
We Brits are made of stronger stuff, and right now it takes a strong man to stay talking... but when the **** hits the fan you can bet your house on us being in the middle of it.. it's not going to take us 2 years to get involved.
Yes I'm intelligent....(I can't spell tho) probably more than some of those calling for us to launch an attack.. I guess those are the breaks
Simon
Ajax
Airman 1st Class
The Iranians wouldn't opt for a trial because the evidence isn't sufficient on their part for the trial to seem fair. And as long as the British media are involved, the foreign office won't be as fickle as to let this go.
Erich
the old Sage
and I say B.S. to you man, we are at war !!!!! .............. you better wake the F up
And how rough is it over there? How would you know? Got news for you buddy it is a war over there and Iraq and Iran are just part of the picture. Please before you go thinking you are the all knowing being about how rough some place is, go there and learn first hand what it is is like there at the moment because you obviously dont have a clue.
It just really annoys me that people that are not there adn have not been there think they know what is like and what is going on. You dont get half of it from the news...
