MiTasol
1st Lieutenant
Amen to that. Hence my relying on the ProMED daily updates - information from recognized medical sources with comments on suspect information from countries like China and Iran
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I would like to read something which I would find useful.
The media are saying all sorts which means getting info is biased based on fiction rather than facts.
So it's either a paper tiger or black death II with extra toilet rolls.
As a qualified scientist I am not reading unbiased information which I can base my own judgement on.
Yep. We are almost 1000kms from the nearest case and some people here have gone nuts as well. No T.P. or baby food on the shelves
That's why in New Zealand, the Government is pushing the reason for the restrictions isn't preventing the virus getting here, its about smoothing the infection curve so that the medical system isn't overwhelmed. Best case scenario is that by the time it gets established here, there's a vaccine; but it WILL get here.The risk is real if appropriate measures are not in place and the issue comes with healthcare resources. Yes most people have mild illnesses and that's the end of it but those that get sick and require intensive treatment at the rate of increase seen in some places there is no chance the systems can cope with it.
For instance there are only around 1 million intensive care bed in the US if we take based on Italy and China so far that around 10% of cases may need intensive care out that in perspective with regards to the possibilities. This does not account for the other conditions that may need the care but can't get it. Anaesthetists and Intensivists are very worried. It may get to the stage of mass casualty triage and medicine if need outstrips the availability of services. Follow the guidelines guys and stay safe.
Being on the frontline I'm wary of what may still be ahead of us.
To quote the American Society for Microbiology (EBD is ethanol-based disinfectants, AHR is Antiseptic Hand Rubbing using alcohol solutions, IAV is influenza A virus , and yes they are different viruses and the Covid-19 is more aggressive but the subject is the effectiveness of alcohol solutions for virus prevention)
IAV in mucus remained active despite 120 s of AHR; however, IAV in saline was completely inactivated within 30 s.
Due to the low rate of diffusion/convection because of the physical properties of mucus as a hydrogel, the time required for the ethanol concentration to reach an IAV inactivation level and thus for EBDs to completely inactivate IAV was approximately eight times longer in mucus than in saline.
The most important finding there is that you need 240 seconds of active hand rubbing in the alcohol solution to kill a virus and only 30 seconds in saline. NOBODY keeps their hands wet and rubbing for four whole minutes when using alcohol. Most barely use four seconds and then with only a minute volume of the alcohol solution...
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The UK is now in fully Henny Penny mode, the government is asked why they are not doing every thing that all other countries are doing. I am off to tell the king myself
Many a true word said in jest, there is a lot of national stereotype/ characteristics involved in the various states reactions which all claim to be based on science. They are certainly not the same or science driven.
this is the article Towards Better Hand Hygiene for Flu Prevention
"Washing hands with an antiseptic soap, they found, deactivated the virus within 30 seconds "
That's why in New Zealand, the Government is pushing the reason for the restrictions isn't preventing the virus getting here, its about smoothing the infection curve so that the medical system isn't overwhelmed. Best case scenario is that by the time it gets established here, there's a vaccine; but it WILL get here.
That idiot wasn't our first case, somewhere around #7 I think. Hopefully he gets treated like this: https://www.washingtonpost.com/trav...-he-had-pending-test-airline-banned-him-life/The Kiwis seem to be doing a good job of mitigation - unlike Australia where they allowed all sorts of close proximity mass gatherings like church and football until today but warned everyone on Thursday. That naturally caused sell out crowds because lots of people were suddenly desperate to go to a live event before those events go crowd free. Sheesh
As a result of one big mistake NZ has its first case - a mongrel from Townsville who flew to NZ to beat the Kiwi warning that no one would be allowed in without 14 day quarantine starting today. What makes this even worse is the mongrel had been tested for Covid-19 in Townsville and then flew out before getting his results.
The Kiwis, and the Aussies should have taken a leaf out of Spain's playbook. They turned flights back to where they came from by putting in place an immediate requirement for isolation.
That idiot wasn't our first case, somewhere around #7 I think. Hopefully he gets treated like this: https://www.washingtonpost.com/trav...-he-had-pending-test-airline-banned-him-life/
I mean either side of the border which is the only thing that really matters, how far is Dallas from the border with Canada?
My point was originally that if the rate of infection in the population is the same then it doesn't matter about people crossing a border, the border means nothing to the virus.Distance is less relevant here than you think. Flights, vacation trips, and trucking between Canada and US are a huge factor. It's not concentrated to just the border zones.
40 km for me (24 miles). Idiot went to Bali for a holiday and bought it back then went to work for over a week before showing symptoms. Fortunately I have not been to that dentist.
Which makes it very difficult to determine mortality rates. Some people are nearly asymptomatic.
It is being put in place here in South Australia.......The Police will have that power to arrest idiots who do not play ball...