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That was in a dive, NOT level flight, 600MPH=965kmh at sea level Mach1 is 1224kmh, so that would be what, mach number of 0.8? That's nothing special really and could also be attained by German propeller fighters.
Me262 was much faster IN LEVEL FLIGHT than any piston engined aircraft.
What's also very interesting about that report is the fact that P51's were redlined at 505MPH, so this guy either played lottery with his life or made a false readout, in the heat of the battle who could blaim him...
Well actually I've heard many contradicting things about P51 max.Mach number, the highest I've heard is 0.82M.
Anyway about German planes, I have a document of ME109F with G wings high speed trials where plane in question reached Mach 0.805.
I will make a quick search on the Tech. subforum as I have a feeling I got it from here, if I don't find it I will upload it
EDIT: Here it is: http://www.ww2aircraft.net/forum/ot.../bf109-high-speed-trials-8371.html#post254817
For fifteen minutes at 74 hg and indicating 600 mph after my prolonged dive I gave chase
A fifteen minute dive at 600 mph? that would put him half way to China (joke)
What is the top speed of a ME262?? 540 mph "Neither could gain an inch"
The inertia from that dive couldn't have lasted forever,
FW 190 D-9 Flight Trials
is this real? Looks like it is supposed to be FW test translated
E-Stelle
Rechlin Flight Performance Fw 190 D-9
with Jumo 213 A. Erpr. Nr.9003
Teilber.2.
Was the Mustang really that much faster than the Dora 9?
However, having said that, which German Prop fighters reached .8 Mach and where could I find reference to them?
yeah, I dunno the horsepower at 74 hg on a Merlin, he is lucky the thing did not blow, but they allowed 75 hg..lots of this is kinda funny, they had been flying the P51 for years.
like here
FW 190 D-9 Flight Trials
Langenhagen, 16 March 1945
Gt/Schw.
Level Speed - Combat Power 3000 rpm
Jumo 213 A engine W. Nr 2229 Jumo 213 A engine W. Nr 0465
335 mph @ SL 342 mph @ SL
404 mph at 19,685 ft. (FTH) 362 mph at 4,922 ft.
That is March 1945, and they are still doing tests on Wk Nr 210002, I gather that #2 is an early production werks. and getting 342 @ SL.. huh
It also looks like they tested #2 in October '44 @367 with boost methanol
when did they get the bugs out of it? sometime in April/ May 1945?
So, who 'exposed it', what was their agenda, and what replaced Mike's site as the organ of 'pure' truth with respect to real flight test data?I think it certainly was, at least if we are to believe Mike Williams's usual manipulated set of documentation that is yet again follows the old simple rules. Show only the lowest tests done on German aircraft, preferably never on maximum power. Never cease to repeat every German dataset is 'very optimistic' and the plane was not even half as capable in real life...
Now the thing is, the Rechlin test results are not for full power on the Dora-9, but 30-min rating (rpms can be deceitul on the Jumo 213 engine because of complex ratings w and w/o MW-50) however, they are very close the FW 190D-9 calculated datasheets results at similiar power.
William's site is very deceitful, it constantly manipulates with filtering the available documentation to serve the agenda of the author. It has been exposed long ago, and I am a bit surpirse anyone is still giving credence to anything that was in any way subjected to William's editorial work.
The Wright report is interesting in that it seems to claim a D-9 with Jumo 213E engine. That's probably some rebuild, since the 3 speed, 2 stage 213E was not powering any serial production D-9 (which were powered by the 2s/2s Jumo 213A), but the Ta 152H...
Judging from the report, it must have been some guys from Lockheed writing it hehe.