N4521U
Plastic Pirate
God help NYC............................
If you believe,
otherwise..................... wise up you apples!
If you believe,
otherwise..................... wise up you apples!
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I have obviously opened the political can of worms. I accept the blame for that. Lets try and lay off the politics again.
GrauGeist
Generalfeldmarschall zur Luftschiff Abteilung
Just an interesting bit of info: CBS news was reporting on the dire situation in New York but the images were of Italian hospitals.
I asked a couple friends who live in New York how bad the situation was at their hospitals and they said the're like ghost towns - no one around.
So what the hell?
I asked a couple friends who live in New York how bad the situation was at their hospitals and they said the're like ghost towns - no one around.
So what the hell?
buffnut453
Captain
Interesting video from the BBC - check out the graphs which align all countries to a common "start" date so you can see the variation in slopes:
there is some reports that normal quarter crematory work is more of 50 thousands
TheMadPenguin
Senior Airman
I dunno about this ... he might get mobbed for those wheels.
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swampyankee
Chief Master Sergeant
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Where's the propeller?
TheMadPenguin
Senior Airman
Behind the radiator?
swampyankee
Chief Master Sergeant
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Netanyahu? Strache? Orban?
Historically, the far right and hyper-nationalists haven't exactly been more supportive of dissent than the communists.
TheMadPenguin
Senior Airman
I think we just got "political", by several measures.
Ok guys lets ALL knock off the political talk.
No propeller, silly! It's a rocket.
mikewint
Captain
I has finally found out how to solve the "empty store shelves" syndrome....Just ask the hoarders to relinquish....politely...that is
TheMadPenguin
Senior Airman
"A polite word and a gun > A polite word alone" (Al Capone, "The Untouchables").
mikewint
Captain
Gun? Gun? OH you mean the black POINTER he used. Just an "attention getter" and "focuser"
ThomasP
Senior Master Sergeant
Hey guys,
A range of interventions was tried in the US in 1918, including closure of schools and churches, banning of mass gatherings, mandated mask wearing, case isolation, and disinfection/hygiene measures.
The first attached graph shows the difference in expansion rates of infection for Philadelphia and St. Louis. US epidemiologists use this as a classic example of why early action is so important.
It should be noted that Philadelphia leaders downplayed the seriousness of the situation. The city council delayed taking active measures from their first reported cases on 17 September until 3 October. The leaders in St. Louis took the situation seriously and started active measures on 7 October, only 2 days after their first reported cases. Note the difference in the curves.
Philadelphia's sharp drop in fatalities (and hence the associated infection rates) is due to the realization by the masses in Philadelphia that the situation was serious, the resulting mass fear drove them to self isolation and social distancing. By then, however, the health system was totally overwhelmed. The peak for the Philadelphia curve is equal to about 12,000 deaths after only 30 days, as opposed to about 1,700 total deaths for St. Louis through the entire 1918-year. The greater metro area populations were about the same for both cities. The St. Louis health system was seriously taxed but did not become overwhelmed.
A range of interventions was tried in the US in 1918, including closure of schools and churches, banning of mass gatherings, mandated mask wearing, case isolation, and disinfection/hygiene measures.
The first attached graph shows the difference in expansion rates of infection for Philadelphia and St. Louis. US epidemiologists use this as a classic example of why early action is so important.
It should be noted that Philadelphia leaders downplayed the seriousness of the situation. The city council delayed taking active measures from their first reported cases on 17 September until 3 October. The leaders in St. Louis took the situation seriously and started active measures on 7 October, only 2 days after their first reported cases. Note the difference in the curves.
Philadelphia's sharp drop in fatalities (and hence the associated infection rates) is due to the realization by the masses in Philadelphia that the situation was serious, the resulting mass fear drove them to self isolation and social distancing. By then, however, the health system was totally overwhelmed. The peak for the Philadelphia curve is equal to about 12,000 deaths after only 30 days, as opposed to about 1,700 total deaths for St. Louis through the entire 1918-year. The greater metro area populations were about the same for both cities. The St. Louis health system was seriously taxed but did not become overwhelmed.
ThomasP
Senior Master Sergeant
Hey GrauGeist,
re your post#1143:"I asked a couple friends who live in New York how bad the situation was at their hospitals and they said the're like ghost towns - no one around. So what the Hell?"
For the last few years I have been working as a small package/medical courier in-between contract manufacturing jobs. It keeps me busy and I find I quite like the job.
Earlier today I picked up a prescription run at a local major hospital, and there were very few people evident in the common areas.
I live in the Twin-Cities metropolitan area in Minnesota and we have a relatively low number of cases so far. The non-ICU/CCU/Isolation areas are not too busy yet, the ER less so than usual as the hospital/clinic system is diverting non-COVID-19 cases to other hospitals and clinics when possible. The normal ER area has been moved to a less accessible area deeper into the hospital in order to limit transient exposure. Visitors are discouraged, and hospital personnel are not supposed to linger at the hospital in order to limit their possible exposure to COVID-19.
It was not quite a ghost town, but I was surprised at how few people I saw during my visit. It is usually a fairly busy time of day.
Minnesota report, March 31
cases 629, recovered 288, hospitalized 112, deaths 12, tested 19,780
fatality rate 1.9%
mortality rate ? per million (Hey Vincenzo, how are you calculating this?)
tests rate 3.5 per thousand
(Note that the first confirmed case of COVID-19 in Minnesota occurred March 6)
re your post#1143:"I asked a couple friends who live in New York how bad the situation was at their hospitals and they said the're like ghost towns - no one around. So what the Hell?"
For the last few years I have been working as a small package/medical courier in-between contract manufacturing jobs. It keeps me busy and I find I quite like the job.
Earlier today I picked up a prescription run at a local major hospital, and there were very few people evident in the common areas.
I live in the Twin-Cities metropolitan area in Minnesota and we have a relatively low number of cases so far. The non-ICU/CCU/Isolation areas are not too busy yet, the ER less so than usual as the hospital/clinic system is diverting non-COVID-19 cases to other hospitals and clinics when possible. The normal ER area has been moved to a less accessible area deeper into the hospital in order to limit transient exposure. Visitors are discouraged, and hospital personnel are not supposed to linger at the hospital in order to limit their possible exposure to COVID-19.
It was not quite a ghost town, but I was surprised at how few people I saw during my visit. It is usually a fairly busy time of day.
Minnesota report, March 31
cases 629, recovered 288, hospitalized 112, deaths 12, tested 19,780
fatality rate 1.9%
mortality rate ? per million (Hey Vincenzo, how are you calculating this?)
tests rate 3.5 per thousand
(Note that the first confirmed case of COVID-19 in Minnesota occurred March 6)
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MIflyer
1st Lieutenant
I find this propaganda campaign against the hydroxycocquinn drug to be very disturbing. My brother is a pharmacist and he tells me it has been used as both a treatment and a preventative since 1945. But the Red Chinese and some of the MSM are attacking it. One person died from it they say, but they had taken the Phosphate version of the drug used to clan fishtanks, which is like getting sulfur and sulfuric acid confused. Doctors in NYC are taking it now to help prevent them getting the disease. The only reason to attack a useful treatment that I can think of is to make things worse.
Or plain ignorance. There have been more doubtful scientific researches concerning covid-19 the last few months. Also some results have been compromised in the translation from Chinese to English.
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