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Have any followed through? I remember that happening in New Orleans with Katrina.
That's why I'd want some firepower. I had to go to great lengths to stock up on that much toilet paper j/k.
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So now the WH changed its tune again. Saying that keeping CV-19 deaths in America to 100,000 would be a job well done. Got to keep moving the bar. Ratings you know.
Now that it comes from the WH admin though, and not just from the medical experts maybe more will take it serious, and not think its just a media sensationalized flu.
I doubt it though. Not when you have governors and mayors with political ambitions issuing executive orders in some states that negate the necessary social distancing recommendations to stop the spread of the virus, and people stupid enough to believe them over the medical experts. But mah freedumz!
Damn it is so hard to venture too far into political waters. I don't want to be forced to close the thread because of me...
Now that it comes from the WH admin though, and not just from the medical experts maybe more will take it serious, and not think its just a media sensationalized flu.
I doubt it though. Not when you have governors and mayors with political ambitions issuing executive orders in some states that negate the necessary social distancing recommendations to stop the spread of the virus, and people stupid enough to believe them over the medical experts. But mah freedumz!
Damn it is so hard to venture too far into political waters. I don't want to be forced to close the thread because of me...
Crimea_River
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Well, as your northern neighbour, I can only say that I'm watching carefully and mostly shaking my head.
On the other end of the spectrum, there's this, which was on our news last night:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/germany-coronavirus-death-rate-reasons-1.5513816
On the other end of the spectrum, there's this, which was on our news last night:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/germany-coronavirus-death-rate-reasons-1.5513816
buffnut453
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Damn it is so hard to venture too far into political waters. I don't want to be forced to close the thread because of me...
You need to stand in the corner and give yourself a good talking-to!
You need to stand in the corner and give yourself a good talking-to!
Agreed...lol
My family in Germany has the same sentiments as that article.
Well the WH CV-19 coordinator just made herself a target and will be replaced. Cannot say contradicting things. She said best case we are looking at up to 200,000 deaths is the best case scenario.
Dr. Birx predicts up to 200,000 coronavirus deaths 'if we do things almost perfectly'
Dr. Birx predicts up to 200,000 coronavirus deaths 'if we do things almost perfectly'
oldcrowcv63
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I wonder if she is including the second and third waves which are reputed to sometimes be worse than the original, although with vaccines in the modern day, it seems unlikely that they would be.
In the meantime....
In the meantime....
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I also don't want to be too political, but some governments just make me speechless
Brazil leader wants to end social distancing even as cases soar past 3,400
Brazil leader wants to end social distancing even as cases soar past 3,400
It's hard not to with all this idiocracy isn't it?
FLYBOYJ
"THE GREAT GAZOO"
I haven't heard any more of this
In the early stages it is quite possibly true, the virus will kill those who are old and sick much quicker than those who are. We are now seeing young fit people dying from CV-19 because they are in intensive care longer. The statistics change with time, that doesn't mean previous reports are untrue.
TheMadPenguin
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3 times/hour! (("Never let a crisis go to waste" can be taken more than one way!))
Also note:
FDA Gives Emergency Authorization of Hydroxychloroquine Use
swampyankee
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Extrapolating from the 0.1% fatality rate for last year's flu to the reported 2% fatality rate for Covid-19, Birx is probably about right at 200,000. There were about 34,000 flu deaths last year (this is the best estimate), so one would expect about 700,000 fatalities for Covid-19, which puts it up into Spanish flu (which, as far as anyone can tell actually originated in Kansas) territory. Of course, the US population in 1918-1919 was about 110,000,000.
Prisons and detention centers are highly crowded and tend to be places where diseases spread rapidly. Of course, releasing prisoners into a system where they don't have access to medical care or housing could also be a death sentence. One could go deeply into the failures of the US treatment of released felons, but that's not just dipping into politics but jumping in with both feet.
Prisons and detention centers are highly crowded and tend to be places where diseases spread rapidly. Of course, releasing prisoners into a system where they don't have access to medical care or housing could also be a death sentence. One could go deeply into the failures of the US treatment of released felons, but that's not just dipping into politics but jumping in with both feet.
See how that works? Now it a person's Dr. tells them to take it at a specific dosage, said person should do so. Not when Joe Smith on Aviation Forum says to.
I was just joking, I used to drink it when I was in China and went to Tsingtao when I was in China just before the Olympics were held there.
mikewint
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Projections of 100,000 to 200,000 American deaths is a best case scenario even "if we do things almost perfectly," Dr. Deborah Birx, the lead coordinator of the White House's coronavirus task force, said on NBC's "Today" show.
On Monday morning, the U.S. had 143,055 confirmed cases of COVID-19, the deadly respiratory disease caused by the new coronavirus, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. At least 2,573 deaths have been recorded.
Around the world, nearly 7368000 people have been infected, and more than 35,000 have died.
-Dr. Fauci also warned on Monday that the coronavirus outbreaks in New Orleans and Detroit show signs that "they're going to take off," and the same could happen in smaller cities. "There are a number of smaller cities that are sort of percolating along, couple hundred cases, the slope doesn't look like it's going up," Fauci told ABC's "Good Morning America." "What we've learned from painful experience with this outbreak is that it goes along almost on a straight line, then a little acceleration, acceleration, then it goes way up. ... We're going to have all of these little mini outbreaks throughout various cities in our country," he said.
-Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan has issued a stay-at-home order that will go into effect at 8 p.m. Monday. Residents should not leave their homes unless they are traveling for an essential job or for an essential need, such as food or medicine.
-Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis said he doesn't want Holland America's Zandaam, where four people died and more than 130 passengers and crew have symptoms, to dock in Fort Lauderdale. The cruise ship was not allowed to dock in South America after leaving Argentina on March 7. It passed through the Panama Canal Sunday night and is about three days from Florida. "We cannot afford to have people who are not even Floridians dumped into South Florida using up those valuable resources," DeSantis told Fox News.
-DeSantis also said Monday he will sign an executive order saying people in Broward, Palm Beach, Miami-Dade and Monroe counties must stay at home because of the high number of COVID-19 cases in South Florida.
-Anyone entering Vermont from another state must self-quarantine for 14 days, Gov. Phil Scott announced. He also said hotels, bed and breakfasts, and short-term rentals such as Airbnb and campgrounds have to suspend operations.
-New York is building a 68-bed field hospital in Central Park to accommodate additional coronavirus patients, Mayor Bill de Blasio said Sunday.
-Arizona officials announced schools in the state will remain closed for the rest of the school year.
-Prince Charles, 71, the heir to the British throne who was quarantined in Scotland over the last seven days after testing positive for the coronavirus, has taken himself out of isolation, Buckingham Palace announced on Monday. "The prince is in good health," an official at the palace said. "He is now operating under the current standard medical restrictions that apply nationwide."
-After an aide tested positive for the conronavirus, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and members of his staff placed themselves in self-isolation until their own test results come back.
-The United Kingdom's Prime Minister Boris Johnson continues to self-isolate after testing positive for COVID-19, and his chief adviser Dominic Cummings also is quarantined after developing symptoms.
On Monday morning, the U.S. had 143,055 confirmed cases of COVID-19, the deadly respiratory disease caused by the new coronavirus, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. At least 2,573 deaths have been recorded.
Around the world, nearly 7368000 people have been infected, and more than 35,000 have died.
-Dr. Fauci also warned on Monday that the coronavirus outbreaks in New Orleans and Detroit show signs that "they're going to take off," and the same could happen in smaller cities. "There are a number of smaller cities that are sort of percolating along, couple hundred cases, the slope doesn't look like it's going up," Fauci told ABC's "Good Morning America." "What we've learned from painful experience with this outbreak is that it goes along almost on a straight line, then a little acceleration, acceleration, then it goes way up. ... We're going to have all of these little mini outbreaks throughout various cities in our country," he said.
-Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan has issued a stay-at-home order that will go into effect at 8 p.m. Monday. Residents should not leave their homes unless they are traveling for an essential job or for an essential need, such as food or medicine.
-Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis said he doesn't want Holland America's Zandaam, where four people died and more than 130 passengers and crew have symptoms, to dock in Fort Lauderdale. The cruise ship was not allowed to dock in South America after leaving Argentina on March 7. It passed through the Panama Canal Sunday night and is about three days from Florida. "We cannot afford to have people who are not even Floridians dumped into South Florida using up those valuable resources," DeSantis told Fox News.
-DeSantis also said Monday he will sign an executive order saying people in Broward, Palm Beach, Miami-Dade and Monroe counties must stay at home because of the high number of COVID-19 cases in South Florida.
-Anyone entering Vermont from another state must self-quarantine for 14 days, Gov. Phil Scott announced. He also said hotels, bed and breakfasts, and short-term rentals such as Airbnb and campgrounds have to suspend operations.
-New York is building a 68-bed field hospital in Central Park to accommodate additional coronavirus patients, Mayor Bill de Blasio said Sunday.
-Arizona officials announced schools in the state will remain closed for the rest of the school year.
-Prince Charles, 71, the heir to the British throne who was quarantined in Scotland over the last seven days after testing positive for the coronavirus, has taken himself out of isolation, Buckingham Palace announced on Monday. "The prince is in good health," an official at the palace said. "He is now operating under the current standard medical restrictions that apply nationwide."
-After an aide tested positive for the conronavirus, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and members of his staff placed themselves in self-isolation until their own test results come back.
-The United Kingdom's Prime Minister Boris Johnson continues to self-isolate after testing positive for COVID-19, and his chief adviser Dominic Cummings also is quarantined after developing symptoms.
Lol, actually a decent beer....
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