Group Build Entries.

[Airframes]

The dates etc are fine by me chaps, whatever the majority think.
Do we know how many are participating yet?
And Jan, you mentioned a name being required for this scheme; how about 'Unternehmen Flug Brucke'? (hope I got the spelling and grammar right, haven't used German for years!). Just that, 'Operation Air Bridge', in German, fits the theme, and it's an 'air bridge' bringing people together from around the World. Corrections/thoughts/views welcome!
Terry.

 

[Lucky13]

Sounds good to me old drinking buddy....you're German's one h*ll lot better than mine!

Edit: I'll take in the beginners beginner class...with these two machines, Heinrich Bartels "Yellow 13" in which he went MIA December 23rd '44 and "Yellow 13" from 15./JG53, have no idea about who the pilot was etc...both in 1/48.

BTW folks, was just thinking, should it be deadline after which you can't enter any more models, or should we just keep it open throughout? I mean, if you finish one and feel that you have time to start and finish another one, you can do that....opinions?

I feel that they have a somewhat easier camouflage than JV44's 13, better to ease into things than do the blotching right away....well, Bartels do have some, but not as bad as the '44 bird!

 

[Airframes]

Your choices look good to me Jan.
As for a deadline, I can't see a problem leaving it open, as long as the 'last' entry is posted on, or before May 7. The only possible 'complication' might, and only MIGHT, arise, if a potential winner of a section has the full compliment of models, as opposed to that category's other participants only having, say, one each. Not a problem for me, but how do the rest of you feel?
I would suggest that it's about now that the 'rules' should be ironed out, agreed upon, and posted. Also, the judging and/or voting system needs to be finalised, so that all are in agreement, and no arguments/misunderstanding/discontentment etc can spoil what should be, and, as I see it, is intended to be, a fun thing, bringing people together with a common aim, AND recreating a little piece of history in miniature.
I suppose this all needs to be 'boxed off' by 31st December?
Are we going with 'Unternehmen Flug Brucke' as the Group Build title? (Our German/German-speaking friends please advise on the accuracy, or otherwise, of my interpretation here!)
Again, comments/opinions etc welcome!
Terry.

 

[Heinz]

Should we have a forums choice poll as well just for kicks?


Like the peoples choice at exhibitions?

 

[Lucky13]

Riiiight....which are the "rules" that we can nail down right now? The scales from 1/72 to 1/24, maximum of 4 models each and in any scale, models to represent aircraft flown by Luftwaffe in the defense of the Reich from September '43 to VE-Day '45, start January 1st 2009 and end May 7th....

 

[Airframes]

Good so far, and I like the suggestion by Heinz. Given that there is enough interest and 'interaction' from the general forum members, maybe a poll will be the best way to decide on the winners from each category etc.
As Wayne said though, 'K.I.S.S.' - don't want to get too complex and unweildy!

 

[Lucky13]

True....

 

[lesofprimus]

I think there should be a panel of non-competing judges, not the forum membership that decides the winners...

We could make another winning model under the catagory Forum Favorite or Membership Choice Award....

The guys who would be judging should be non-competing Senior Members/Mods who know what they are talking about.... We need to get a listing of all participants and then go from there....

 

[lesofprimus]

And for the record, I will be building the 1/32nd scale Hasegawa Fw 190D-9 "Red 1" of JV44, flown by Heinz Sachsenberg and submitting it in the Beginner/Novice Catagory...

Speaking of that, what are the requirements for each catagory as far as skill goes, and how many/what experience levels will there be???

Beginner, Intermediate, and Expert???

 

[Catch22]

I need to find out if I'll even be able to. I have a bit of a backlog, and that carrier's gonna take a while.

 

[A4K]

I 'd like to be in on this if I can.
I haven't done much modelmaking for a while, as there are still a few urgent matters that need my attention, but I'm hoping to enter an Fw 190D-9 atleast, one of my favourite aircraft.

My skill level is somewhere round the 'intermediate' stage -I'm not a beginner, but I'm far from professional, and I still brush paint.

The dates and conditions of the build sound good to me.

 

[lesofprimus]

The dates and conditions of the build sound good to me.

Same here A4...

 

[Airframes]

Aw, Catch! You gotta try get something in, if you can! Even if it's a teeny weeny little thing!
Yep, I agree so far with the 'rules'; I've already stated that I'll 'enter' but not compete, so I don't mind assisting with some of the judging. I think that, as Wayne is currently up to speed with comp rules etc, maybe he can finalise the 'rules' for this scheme, if that's OK Wayne?
As I see it, this is not only a group-build 'competition', but an incentive and tutorial, where modellers on the forum, whatever their skill level, can participate, contribute and gain knowledge/experience/hints/inspiration etc, thereby furthering the enjoyment and sense of achievement whilst at the same time broadening skills and education. Already, the research sparked off has provided valuable historical information that has been shared by all - great stuff!
Perhaps it might be a good idea to have an historical specialist on board? (Don't like the term 'expert' - 'Ex' means 'has been' and 'Spurt' is a drip under pressure!) It could help in adjudication, and in the case of a tie, or split decisions. Of course, I'm thinking of Erich here! If you fancy it that is Erich!?
Again, comments/opinions/views welcomed.
Terry.

 

[lesofprimus]

I think that the Judges need to be decided after everyone who are going to participate have declared themselves...

As I see it, Erich, Eric and u Terry are the first 3 Judges to pick.... Wayne could be another Judge if he doesnt "compete"...

 

[Njaco]

Guess I 'll throw my two bits in here. I'm just gonna do one as I don't know what I have just yet - have to open a few big boxes to see. But I'm no beginner and far from professional - like Evan. Time constraints will keep mine to one entry. Tommorrow I'll go rooting around for what I have.

 

[Airframes]

Fine by me Dan. As you say, the next thing is to get all the names in; actual entries, and the numbers of same, can be sorted later. Can I suggest that, as soon as the rules and 'categories/classes' are finalised, that those wishing to, or intending to enter, lodge their details on a separate post?
I don't mind taking and recording the details, as I probably have more free time than most. When the above is sorted, perhaps a register under the comp title can be posted, so that all concerned can register, question, clarify etc. I'll keep a file on all correspondance, to be shared or disrtributed to the relevant parties, if it's thought that would be useful?

 

[Wayne Little]

As I said earlier I would rather judge than compete...I may throw something in just to contribute to the build....

It would seem that for the most part, from the posts so far, that we have beginner/novice and Intermediate classes of modellers putting their hands up, sound about right?

So how do YOU fit?.....keeping the description simple.....

Category/Class 1 : Experienced Modeller with very good skills.
Category/Class 2 : General Medium level modeller with reasonable skills and good grasp on the basics.
Category/Class 3 : Beginner/Novice Minimal experience and learning the ropes.

Does this provide a fair and reasonable description?

 

[lesofprimus]

Sounds good Terry... I like the name of the Group Build as well.... Unfortunatly, I cant get the word Operation to translate into German....

Air Bridge translated is Luftbrücke... Operation translates to Operation... We need Chris or Erich in here...

 

[lesofprimus]

Sounds good Wayne, although by ur descriptions, Im not sure if Im a Class 3 or 2....

 

[Catch22]

I WILL try to sneak one in Terry, but we'll have to see how it goes. I'd probably do the Tamiya Dora OOB.

Yeah, I'm not sure either. I'm experienced as I've been doing it a while, and I know what I'm doing, but somebody like Wayne would be in Class 3, and I'm nowhere near him.