Looking for late Fw190A with RLM 81/82 uppers. Any leads?

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  1. mm-2

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    I'm interested in finding a Fw190A-8 or A-9 that flew late in the war but had RLM 81/82 upper colors like you might find on some of the long-nose FWs. I think it's an interesting look and coupled with the short radial engine would be rather unique as far as paint schemes go.

    These late-war FW 190As were around during this paint scheme, so logically some could have had it, but I don't know of any off-hand, nor can I find any with an online search.

    Does anybody know of any legit schemes as described above? Basically like a 190D, but on a 190A airrame.
     
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    I have found this one.... FW.190A-8, Stab II/SG 2, Pilot - Maj.Karl Kennel. May 1945. Fuselage camouflage: RLM82/83. Formerly aircraft had overall RLM82, RLM83 spots were painted later in unit. Wings camouflage: later two-color scheme - RLM82/76. RLM83 stripes at wings.
     

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    #3 Florence, Jun 14, 2011
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    I am no experten but maybe this is one -
     

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    Maybe some profiles -

    FW190A-81945May.jpg FW190A-9MAy1945.jpg FW190A-81945.jpg

    Source:Historie Collections PlanesandPilots 09 Focke-Wulf FW190 From-1939 to 1945 by Breffort Joineau
     
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    FW190A-8-.jpg
    Not sure of this one either.

    FW190A-8--.jpg
     
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    Nice stuff Florence. :D
    However the Fw 190A8 of 5(Sturm)/JG4 'White11' Werk Nummer 681497 was of the standard camo scheme RLM74/75/76.
    The one with "III" on the fuselage in the last post was Oblt. Edwin Dutel's Jaboschwarm of I./JG54 and was A-4 variant. The profile below.
    Concerning the first one posted in #4 post ... is the same I have posted above and was Maj.Karl Kennel's FW 190A-8, Stab II/SG 2. According to Kagero book for Fw190 vol.1 she wore the RLM81/82/76 camo scheme.
    The "Blue4" W.Nr.732183, of Lt. Linz from 12./JG5 was of RLM74/75/76 camo scheme rather and should have white rudder but not the yellow one. It is possible the first ring at the front of the engine cowling was of blue colour too.

    As far as the Fw109A-9 "Black 7" of IV./JG54 is concerned...I haven't found any references so far.
     

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    many of you guys have seen captured/torn up A-8 and A-9's of JG 301 with grey and predominance of ground concealment greens on wings, spine and fuselage sides in the light green called RLM 76 though in reality far from it
     
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    Maybe this one?
     

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    That caption is wrong, that's a D-9.
     
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    It is indeed a Dora. The caption must be for another photo on the page or opposite. JG 300 never flew the Dora anyway.
    Steve
     
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    I agree. The caption is wrong. This is a Dora variant.
     
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    Steve, May not have actually flown them but mentioned in JG300 Vol 2 is a note stating documents indicate D-9's and D-11's on strength in late April 45....
     
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    Thanks Wayne,I have the various elements of JG 300 finishing the war with a variety of Fw190As and Bf109Gs. I'm not going to disagree with Lorant and Goyat though!
    Cheers
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    You are welcome sir , the more info we share the better for all of us! always learning..... :)
     
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    Hear hear Wayne! :)

    Great pics of 'Weissen 11' btw guys, will come in handy for later...
     
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    Wurger, in those first pics, why would the landing struts be colored like that? Was the whole underside that way? Never seen that.
     
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    The landing gear doors? They sprayed the aircraft on their wheels (obviously!) and sometimes did this. You'll see it quite often with sprayed white winter camo too. I think the sprayer interpreted the gear doors as part of the side profile of the aircraft. The rest of the underside wouldn't normally be spayed that way.
    Steve
     
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    #19 Florence, Jul 4, 2011
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    Apologies for the D-9 mix up.

    Found these -

    ok.jpg


    This is an F-8 just for interest in the scheme -


    ok2.jpg 0k3.jpg
     
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    I agree with Steve's #18 post. It was the possible reason.
     
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