Muslim tolerance: Allied graves destroyed in Libya!

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I totally agree with you Chris. There are all men under the uniform.

John
 
I've already posted my feelings on another forum (something about a big "boom", odd-shaped cloud, vast areas of glass...). I'm wanting to say, though, that there was a report that the Korans that were burned were actually evidence, that the Koran's had been hollowed out to smuggle arms or bomb-making materials. Seems to me, if that's the case, that the Korans were already desecrated. Hmmm...if this is the actual case, then it screams "setup" to me. Jack up a few Korans (that the militants aren't really following anyway), allow them to get captured (or make use of their being captured), and when the inevitable disposal happens, make sure that it gets broadcast to the entire world. And there's nothing the US can do to save face over it, although our C-n-C will try to apologize to everyone, of course.
 
its happened here with some kids kicking over gravestones , doesn't matter what gravestone it is I'll wager its really dumb kids with no concept of what they are doing. till there is absolutly no reason for the evil act
 
These aren't just 'dumb kids' though. These "individuals" think they're making a statement of some sort. Only message that gets through though is "Hey, we're f***wits. Shoot us."
 
My Family lived in Libya from 1967 to 1989, so my knowlege of that Country is firsthand.
I have to say that the way of thinking in a Muslim country is abysmal different from the western one.
The sooner we in the west will realize this, the better.
 
My Family lived in Libya from 1967 to 1989, so my knowlege of that Country is firsthand.
I have to say that the way of thinking in a Muslim country is abysmal different from the western one.
The sooner we in the west will realize this, the better.

I agree. I have spent time in the Middle East (Iraq, Kuwait, Egypt), but it is still no excuse for what they did. Respect for the dead should be shared by all.
 
My Family lived in Libya from 1967 to 1989, so my knowlege of that Country is firsthand.
I have to say that the way of thinking in a Muslim country is abysmal different from the western one.
The sooner we in the west will realize this, the better.

Bingo! Unfortunately, too many people think that they can reason with and be touchy feely with them. Too many people are naive to the way of thinking in the Middle East and North Africa.
 
Bingo! Unfortunately, too many people think that they can reason with and be touchy feely with them. Too many people are naive to the way of thinking in the Middle East and North Africa.

History should teach us that no 'christian forces' have overcome the 'muslim ones'. However far you go back in time.
I don't know how 'we' are going to extract ourselves from the war on terror...if we ever can.
2014? We'll see.
John
 
Hunyadi János beat the Turks in Hungary John, despite being heavily outnumbered. The victory was so important to the preservation of the 'christian state' that the pope decreed church bells be rung at noon in remembrance - which we still do to this day. (The Turks were so afraid of him they didn't attack again till years after his death!)

But this is by the by. As has been said we are dealing with a completely different mind set here. This was a deliberate act of sheer bloody mindedness, but what can you do? Atleast they plan to restore the headstones.
 

I should have said 'few' instead of 'no'.
I have tried to understand the C v M thing and why so much blood has been spilt but, I am left scratching my head in confusion....
If the headstones are restored then that is a good thing.
Nothing much else we can say really...
John
 
so do you guys feel these "wanna-be's have sanctity of life ? most of you guys had not joined up on the forums by the first induction by US forces in the conflicts S.H. but we covered why we don't fully understand the Muslim mind, and even with all the changes in thinking at the present age we still out sutck in our westernized world
 
History should teach us that no 'christian forces' have overcome the 'muslim ones'. However far you go back in time.
I don't know how 'we' are going to extract ourselves from the war on terror...if we ever can.
2014? We'll see.
John
In the early days,"Christian" forces did encounter victories against the Saracen/Moorish forces, but dissention, greed and petty rivalries derailed much of the efforts to stem the muslim tide overall.

It wasn't until The Bulgarians revolted against the Turks and the Spaniards cut off and defeated the muslims in the Andalusian region, that the islamic hold on Europe was broken.

The middle eastern mindset is similiar to the feudal Japanese. Concession, surrender, etc is a sign of weakness and earns nothing but contempt. Even in the market place, the seller waits for you to make an offer, to which he'll immediately reject and then you continue to haggle until a price is agreed on. That earns his respect and if you pay what he's asking, he'll be disgusted. It's a way of life for them.
 
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The USA forces have not been alone in the various conflicts and, while I am relatively new to this particular forum, I have followed the progress since day 1.

'so do you guys feel these "wanna-be's have sanctity of life ?'...if I answered you honestly I'd be booted off this forum.

'we don't fully understand the Muslim mind'...No , we don't. The incidents of terror attacks within the UK are from British Muslims. If we cannot fathom our own people then understanding a foreign country is impossible.

The Iraq war is not overly popular here for a variety of reasons. What has struck a chord with the British public is the wounded maimed soldiers marines . Yesterday's 6 from the Yorkshire regiment deepens the gloom.

John
 
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