thanks Wojtek,both the frog Lancaster and vac form Manchester threads thanks to Wojtek are now in one complete thread to be joined by a vac form Lincoln/York and frog Shackleton,[i have scale plans for both the York and Lincoln should anyone want a copy],this is going to be my own group build showing how the Manchester design was developed through to the Shackleton,although my skills arn't as good as the rest on here i thought it might be somewhere where pics and info could be shared for others to help with their own builds,
cheers all
Bob