Conspiracy lovers - Roswell UFO - Nazis

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  1. Thorlifter

    Thorlifter Well-Known Member

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    OK, did that get your attention? haha

    Here is an "interesting" article I just found.

    Was Roswell UFO Crash A Secret Nazi Aircraft?

    The Roswell, New Mexico, UFO crash of 1947 was the result of -- here it comes, wait for it -- top secret Nazi technology. No alien spacecraft, no alien bodies, but an aircraft called the "Bell" (depicted above from a 2008 Discovery Channel documentary).

    At least that's what a new German film seems to suggest, according to OpenMinds.tv.

    To be sure, it's questionable what actually happened in the outskirts of that small town 67 years ago. But it's also questionable if this film will ever see the light of day.

    At least, here's the most truthful thing known about the incident: Something came out of the sky in July 1947 and crashed on a ranch near Roswell. But what that "something" was has become a nearly 70-year-old legend.

    Everything from extraterrestrial spacecraft to weather balloon to military high altitude device for spying on Soviet nuclear testing has been offered for the identity of the crashed object.

    And now, the film, supposedly called "UFOs and the Third Reich," is promoting another theory: A 10-foot-wide, 12-foot-high, anti-gravity, bell-shaped craft, combining rocket and helicopter technology, created by Nazi Germany, fell into the hands of the U.S. in 1943, who further developed the project. An alleged test of the Bell resulted in its crash, which became the event that started the Roswell UFO saga.

    Stories about the Nazi Bell have cropped up in the UFO literature for many years, including Discovery Channel's 2008 "Nazi UFO Conspiracy."

    "This is what I saw, with my own eyes -- a Nazi UFO," German aeronautical engineer Georg Klein is reputed to say in "UFOs and the Third Reich." "I don't consider myself a crackpot or eccentric or someone given to fantasies."

    The new film is also rumored to focus on German engineer, Joseph Andreas Epp, who reportedly worked on a UFO project which resulted in several saucer-shaped vehicles that supposedly included dome-shaped cabins and a rotating rim.

    "The wing blades would be allowed to rotate freely as the saucer moved forward, as in an auto-gyrocopter," Epp said. "In all probability, the wing blades speed -- and so, their lifting value -- could also be increased by directing the adjustable horizontal jets slightly upwards to engage the blades, thus spinning them faster at the digression of the pilot."

    If the so-called Bell UFO is what actually crashed outside of Roswell in 1947, it would contradict the many military eyewitnesses who eventually came forward and described the physical appearance and otherworldy characteristics of the object that fell out of the New Mexico sky -- not to mention their descriptions of several small humanoid occupants of the craft.

    This isn't the first time we've looked at the so-called Nazi-UFO-Alien connection.

    Back in 2011, investigative reporter Annie Jacobsen raised a controversial question in her book about the top secret Nevada military base, known as Area 51: Did former Soviet leader Joseph Stalin recruit Josef Mengele, the Nazi "Angel of Death," to surgically alter children to look like aliens in 1947, and did they place these malformed adolescents on board a Soviet spy plane to be part of the Roswell UFO crash?

    At the beginning of 2014, we examined a wild story that suggested the U.S. government has been under the control of a shadow government overseen by extraterrestrials who helped Nazi Germany's rise in the 1930s.

    The current German documentary certainly won't bring more answers to the Roswell debate. At the very least, it offers further questions about who and what to believe of the biggest UFO controversy in history.

    And, oh, there's one other thing about this "new" film. Whoever the producers of it are, they don't seem too interested in releasing any promotional clips, trailers or still images from it. An extensive Internet search hasn't turned up anything -- yet.
     
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    #2 stan reid, Oct 31, 2014
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    Not necessarily the Bell (maybe something a little less exotic than that) but I have wondered if it wasn't some captured secret German aircraft that crashed during a test flight. If it was something we didn't want the Soviets to know we had then that would explain the need for a cover up.
     
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    I like the official USAF conclusion myself. It requires no aliens and no Third Reich Wunderwaffen :D
     
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    The problem with a "secret Nazi" wunderwaffe, is that their technology was no different than American, British, Russian or Japanese. Just different ways of going about it.

    This would be powered flight, rocketry, nuclear physics and so on...

    Also, if that mysterious Roswell technology was so awesome and advanced, why did the U.S. and Soviet Union spend so much money during the cold war, trying to out-fly each other? (both in military and space technology)

    The closest thing to a "wunderwaffe" that was fielded during those years, was "Archangel" and it's spin-offs...and nothing in powered flight has yet to rival it. However, as exceptionally badass as the SR-71 is, it's hardly interstellar flight capable.
     
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    I find it interesting that an advanced species could navigate across the universe, only to collide with New Mexico.
    Just say'in.
     
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    Narmmmm! (sound of U.F.O.), Oh s#!t, it's New Mexico! (sound of occupants of afore mentioned U.F.O.)
     
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    Argg! Blatt! (Sound of aliens hitting the surface of New Mexico)
     
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    Argg??? Are you recognizing the existence of alien pirates? Maybe when they first saw earth they said, "Ahoy ye land lubbers. Afix your 5 eyes on yonder treasure."
     
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    Treasure?

    Thor, go out to the septic tank, lift the lid and look closely.

    What you are seeing, is the view of earth from space, as an advanced civilization would perceive it...
     
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    Roswell just happens to be where I was created shortly after the crash. I must be part alien.
     
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    #11 stona, Nov 1, 2014
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    And I find it even more incredible that this should happen during the span of my lifetime, even assuming they've figured out a way to navigate across the galaxy/universe. Time is veeery long and the chances of this happening are veeery close to zero :)

    Data from the Kepler space telescope shows that there are about 10 Billion (10,000,000,000) earth like planets in our galaxy alone. If we accept, as some do, that M class stars might also be able to provide a survivable environment for their planets that figure might be 40 billion.

    There is/was/will be life in our own galaxy. Whether that is intelligent life and whether we can communicate with it, meaning that it must have developed radio communications at a point in space and time that fall within our own current past light cone, are different questions altogether.

    Cheers

    Steve
     
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    On a serious note, I personally believe that there is, (or was, or will be), life elsewhere in the cosmos. I am of the opinion that it develops much the same as it has here, just that we are all at different points in that development, so that we are missing each other.
    The great cosmic joke, perhaps.
     
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    I agree with you, Paul...the universe is just too vast for only one little planet in a tiny little solar system to suddenly sprout into life.

    Our understanding of the universe is next to nothing when compared to the big picture and I seriously doubt we will ever fully understand how it works. Hell, we don't even have complete knowledge of what lies under the sea.

    Just in the past several years, they have discovered hundreds of "earth-like" planets in neighboring systems and this doesn't even include habitable moons that orbit the larger planets: even Jupiter has a few that come close.
     
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    I think some alien teen took dad's ship for a joy ride and crashed it.
     
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    And within 10 hours they had a driver's license and free healthcare.

    I agree with you on "other" life. Among the vastness of space, do you really believe that life only exists here? naw, we are not alone...... :(

    Oh, and Roswell was just the beginning....

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    A critical factor is how long a developed civilisation might last before it dies for whatever reason. Another more worrying question is whether intelligent life might develop at all. For most of the history of life on our own planet we are talking about little more than a bacterial scum. It is by no means certain that the leap to intelligent, multi cellular life forms is a simple or frequent one.
    Cheers
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    Went thru Roswell a few years ago on a motorcycle ride, weird place. It exists on alien tourism,if the truth came out that it wasn't an alien:) they would have to destroy all those alien figures all over the place....
     
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    ufo sightings used to happen a lot in the 60s and early 70s but seem to have vanished,,,,maybe it was just the 'shrooms or the boones farm strawberry wine that was around back then too
     
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    Or a cover story for the various prototypes being developed at the height of the cold war.

    Cheers

    Steve
     
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    I thought humans came from outer space like a planet which was once located between the Mars and the Jupiter 250 million years ago.
    I was a Sci-fi boy :)
     
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