Dec 13th 1937. The rape of Nanjing

Discussion in 'WW2 General' started by syscom3, Dec 12, 2009.

  1. syscom3

    syscom3 Pacific Historian

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2005
    Messages:
    12,631
    Likes Received:
    309
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Orange County, CA
    Today is the 72nd anniversary of one of the most brutal events in history; the beginning of the rape and plunder of Nanjing (China) by the Imperial Japanese Army.

    Sometimes the IJA outperformed the Waffen SS when it came to inhuman conduct on a grand scale.

    For more details:


    View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoW2WYdOsvg
     
  2. Vassili Zaitzev

    Vassili Zaitzev Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2005
    Messages:
    3,099
    Likes Received:
    28
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Occupation:
    Substitute teacher; graduate student
    Location:
    Connecticut, United States
    A very sad day in human history. Hope this never happens again.
     
  3. FLYBOYJ

    FLYBOYJ "THE GREAT GAZOO"
    Staff Member Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2005
    Messages:
    23,202
    Likes Received:
    786
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Aircraft Maintenance Manager/ Flight Instructor
    Location:
    Colorado, USA
    Sometimes? IMO they were equal to or even better depending where and when.
     
  4. syscom3

    syscom3 Pacific Historian

    Joined:
    Jun 4, 2005
    Messages:
    12,631
    Likes Received:
    309
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Orange County, CA
    It happened in Ruwanda not to long ago.

    If history is any clue, its not if it will happen, but when.
     
  5. ToughOmbre

    ToughOmbre Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2007
    Messages:
    4,182
    Likes Received:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Occupation:
    Retired from Verizon Communications - Now Working for Point Lobster Company, Pt. Pleasant Beach, NJ
    Location:
    Jersey Shore, USA
    Very true.

    The Bataan Death March, reprisals against Chinese civilians after the Doolittle Raid and the treatment of Allied prisoners throughout the war in Japanese POW camps come quickly to mind.

    TO
     
  6. tomo pauk

    tomo pauk Creator of Interesting Threads

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2008
    Messages:
    7,994
    Likes Received:
    438
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Better in doing this:

    I don't get it. :shock:
     
  7. Shinpachi

    Shinpachi Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2008
    Messages:
    6,816
    Likes Received:
    1,012
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    CGI Creator
    Location:
    Osaka
    I often do wish I could not understand English when things are concerned with the honor of my country as no one would want his/her own country to be the target of blame.

    About the incident, here are still persistant negative opinions saying the incident was totally fabricated or the actual victims number could not have been so many. But, on the other hand, I have ever seen on TV or read on the paer such testimonies as "Chinese residents did not look human-beings to me(meaning it was easy for me to kill them" or "I and my comrades competed the killing number( it was called 100-killing game)" by some former IJA soldiers. As far as I have reseached, the following two sites look representative for both negatives and affirmatives.

    Negative
    Affirmative

    Negative or affirmative, it always makes me feel sick.
    May the victim's soul rest in peace:salute:
     
  8. Maximowitz

    Maximowitz Active Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2008
    Messages:
    1,971
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Occupation:
    Railwayman
    Location:
    London, England.
    Every country has moments in its past that are less than noble Shinpachi.

    As Gandhi replied when he was asked what he thought of Western civilization:

    "I think it would be a very good idea."
     
  9. Shinpachi

    Shinpachi Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2008
    Messages:
    6,816
    Likes Received:
    1,012
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    CGI Creator
    Location:
    Osaka
    Thanks Maximowitz for your care.

    Till 1945, the Japanese might have long been living in the sense of warfare since 1467 when the Warring States Period started although we had peaceful time during the Edo era as the nation closed its door for overseas.

    Based on the cool analysis, everything must be rational and fair. I agree with Gandhi.
     

    Attached Files:

  10. GrauGeist

    GrauGeist Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2008
    Messages:
    15,201
    Likes Received:
    2,036
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Public Safety Automotive Technician
    Location:
    Redding, California
    Home Page:
    Every civilization has had it's dark episodes.

    The present generations should not be asked to bear the burden of mistakes made in the past, but instead, we should all learn from those mistakes to make sure they don't happen in the future.
     
  11. Shinpachi

    Shinpachi Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2008
    Messages:
    6,816
    Likes Received:
    1,012
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    CGI Creator
    Location:
    Osaka
    No objection, GrauGeist.
    Thanks.
     
  12. Aaron Brooks Wolters

    Aaron Brooks Wolters Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2007
    Messages:
    15,723
    Likes Received:
    339
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Auto Restoration
    Location:
    Abingdon, VA.
    Very true Dave. Well put.
     
  13. Lucky13

    Lucky13 Forum Mascot

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2006
    Messages:
    36,729
    Likes Received:
    1,064
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Nightshift picker
    Location:
    A Swede living in Glasgow, Scotland
    Home Page:
    Agree! Every nation have a skeleton or two in their closet, no nation has been or is perfect and will never be....
     
  14. vikingBerserker

    vikingBerserker Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2009
    Messages:
    24,072
    Likes Received:
    655
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Korporate Kontrolleur
    Location:
    South Carolina
  15. Ferdinand Foch

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2008
    Messages:
    816
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Occupation:
    College Student, sometimes a stock clerk
    Location:
    Stafford Springs, Connecticut
    Agree. It's sad but true. No nation is perfect, and anyone who says so is a d#mn liar.
     
Loading...

Share This Page