FOREST FIRES

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Fires are nature's form of forest management. Humans need to understand that.
Yes, indeed. Core samples drilled all over the place show that long before now (going back at least to the last ice age) the forests and scrub burned regularly. If a section burns every 10 years or so it cannot build up so much "fuel" beneath the canopy that fires will be large and completely destructive. In fact, some tree species (the Giant Sequoia, for one) will not drop their cones/seeds until a fire burns near their base. (The National Park Service sets controlled fires beneath the trees in Sequoia National Park, regularly.) This behavior is an adaptation that permits its seeds to germinate and grow with minimal competition. The "new growth" following a fire is very nutritious for herbivore wildlife and they seek it out as soon as re-germination starts.
 
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Aussie aborigines and Native American Indians have known this for many many centuries.
White man think natives ignorant!
 
Aussie aborigines and Native American Indians have known this for many many centuries.
White man think natives ignorant!
Yes. There is a story from WWII that shows how empirical knowlege, such as this, should always be respected. When the USAAF was building the numerous airfields in the Dobodura airfield complex in Papua New Guinea, they hired many local Papua natives to cut and burn the kunai grass to clear areas for shops, bivouac areas, landing strips, etc. The Papuans pointed out to the American engineers certain areas that they should not build on, since those areas contained "evil spirits" that will "inhabit your bodies." The engineers sneered at and ignored the advice of the natives. It turned out that these areas of the Dobodura plain (an ancient alluvial plain) were infested with a mite that carried bush typhus, a.k.a scrub typhus. You can guess the outcome. It took massive amounts of DDT to get rid of the mites, after numerous cases of scrub typhus among American service men. People who live in an area for thousands of years will always have detailed knowledge about said area that no "educated" interloper will have.
 
Three people died on Sunday after two helicopters collided while fighting a fire in Riverside County, California, according to emergency officials.

At a news conference early Monday, Cal Fire Southern Region Chief David Fulcher said one of the helicopters landed safely, while the other did not.

"Unfortunately, the second helicopter crashed and tragically all three members perished, which included one Cal Fire Division chief, one Cal Fire captain and one contract client pilot," Fulcher said. He did not identify the victims of the crash.

The National Transportation Safety Board is investigating the incident.

Fulcher said the helicopters were deployed to put out a fire near the intersection of Broadway Street and South Ronda Avenue in Cabazon.



 
 
Yeah but at that stage the ecoterrorists were saying do not produce/use paper bags - produce/use plastic bags. Now they do not know what to say because half want trees and the other half want paper products
There's something worrying about trying to blame someone for the state we're in. Your house is on fire but you're arguing about whether it was electrical or not.
 

Three dead in California firefighting helicopter collision


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By Georgie Hewson
(Reuters)
Two firefighting helicopters have collided while responding to a blaze in Southern California, sending one to the ground in a crash, killing all three people on board.
The accident happened in the desert about 137 kilometres east of Los Angeles and involved a huge Sikorsky S-64E and a smaller Bell 407.
The larger Sikorsky plane landed safely.
"Unfortunately, the second helicopter crashed and tragically all three members perished," Cal Fire Southern Region Chief David Fulcher said at a news conference early Monday.
The victims were Fire Assistant Chief Josh Bischof, Fire Captain Tim Rodriguez, and contract pilot Tony Sousa.
While battling the blaze, the two helicopters collided just before 7pm.
The crash caused an additional 4-acre fire, which was extinguished.
The crash is being investigated by the National Transportation Safety Board.
 

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