kgambit
Tech Sergeant
Hmmm. nobody has an F-5E on the table. Might do one of the aggressor Nellis Gomers or maybe a PACAF Gomers out of Clark AFB. The camo schemes on those are absolutely awesome. All depends on the decals.
The Cold War Group Build.....
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Benevolens Magister
Doesn't seem to be much in the way of 'WARPAC' stuff promised yet either. A 'Bear' or something would be nice - maybe in 1/32nd scale!!!!!
I've shown these before with the exception of the B-47E. But, I think they qualify as CW Era. At the moment I'm building an F-15C for a former crew chief friend or I'd participate in this one. BTW, my Pop flew the B-47E as his last mount while assigned to the 100th Bomb Wing at Pease AFb from 1959-1963. I watched many of them take off and a few of them crash on base.
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Benevolens Magister
Very nice work indeed! I've always liked the look of the B47, a very 'smooth' looking aircraft, and purposeful.
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Lucky13
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B-47! The most beautiful jet bomber E-V-E-R!
DBII
Senior Master Sergeant
To many to choose from. I was OPFOR on computer simulations for about 9 years. I always loved Red Air. I will see if I can find a WARPAC bird. If not, maybe an Alfa jet or A-37.
A4K
Brigadier General
In addition to the 'possibles' I've mentioned here already, I've got a 'definite' for the Kursk part of this build - an Sdkfz 124 Wespe kindly given to me by Alex! 
Wanted to ask too...would my uncle's Spitfire PR.XIX (PS888 ) fit the build definition? If so, might be the kick in the pants I need to get it moving...
...also post-war RNZAF types? What are the borders on this build exactly?
Evan
Wanted to ask too...would my uncle's Spitfire PR.XIX (PS888 ) fit the build definition? If so, might be the kick in the pants I need to get it moving...
...also post-war RNZAF types? What are the borders on this build exactly?
Evan
Catch22
Major
Stolen from the thread that Terry just posted about one month being left in the D-Day build:
The next Group Build, 'Cold War Protagonists', commences this coming Saturday, May 1st. There aren't any particular guidelines for this build, other than that aircraft should be representative of the major powers lined-up in what became known as the 'Cold War' - an at times uneasy peace between the (former) Soviet Union and her satellites (WARPAC) and the West, mainly NATO.
The period covers a lengthy time span, from around 1948 until the collapse of the Soviet union, 1989-90, so there should be plenty to go at. Please note that, for example, aircraft from the Korean War, although within the period and, to an extent, eligible as 'protagonists', are in reality more suited to that specific conflict which, although it saw the 'unofficial' involvement of the Soviets, wasn't part of what would be considered the real threat of the so-called 'Cold War'. Builds covering specific periods or conflicts have been included in the recent polls.
Although the potential threat was global, the main focus was on NATO's right flank - the very real possibility of Soviet forces pouring across the North German Plain, and over-running western Europe. This resulted in an immense air defence line from the Arctic southwards, plus, of course, a substantial strike force on bases in North America and points south, the UK, and Europe itself.
The very time span, the nations involved, and the geographic layout should provide endless possibilities for some interesting models, especially from the periods during the 'height' of the Cold War - the 1950's to early 1970's, and it could be fascinating to see the vast array of types, colour schemes and, of course, technological advances which developed during this time.
Looking forward to seeing your entries!
I guess this means my F4Us are out!
The next Group Build, 'Cold War Protagonists', commences this coming Saturday, May 1st. There aren't any particular guidelines for this build, other than that aircraft should be representative of the major powers lined-up in what became known as the 'Cold War' - an at times uneasy peace between the (former) Soviet Union and her satellites (WARPAC) and the West, mainly NATO.
The period covers a lengthy time span, from around 1948 until the collapse of the Soviet union, 1989-90, so there should be plenty to go at. Please note that, for example, aircraft from the Korean War, although within the period and, to an extent, eligible as 'protagonists', are in reality more suited to that specific conflict which, although it saw the 'unofficial' involvement of the Soviets, wasn't part of what would be considered the real threat of the so-called 'Cold War'. Builds covering specific periods or conflicts have been included in the recent polls.
Although the potential threat was global, the main focus was on NATO's right flank - the very real possibility of Soviet forces pouring across the North German Plain, and over-running western Europe. This resulted in an immense air defence line from the Arctic southwards, plus, of course, a substantial strike force on bases in North America and points south, the UK, and Europe itself.
The very time span, the nations involved, and the geographic layout should provide endless possibilities for some interesting models, especially from the periods during the 'height' of the Cold War - the 1950's to early 1970's, and it could be fascinating to see the vast array of types, colour schemes and, of course, technological advances which developed during this time.
Looking forward to seeing your entries!
I guess this means my F4Us are out!
We have one of 4 B1-A's here in CO, very cool looking bird in person.The B-47 is definitely beautiful but the B-1 is straight menacing.
A4K
Brigadier General
Stolen from the thread that Terry just posted about one month being left in the D-Day build:
I guess this means my F4Us are out!
...and my kiwi stuff and post-war Spit...oh well, thanks for posting Corey!
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Benevolens Magister
I've posted a reply to Cory's question re the F4U in the 'One Month' thread, which may give some guide lines. The problem is, it's such a long time span, that it's normal to try to identify specifics which, of course, can't really be achieved in this instance. All I can suggest is look at the title, 'Cold War', and think what that was all about. No disrespect, but specific conflicts, or other actions, have been suggested as future GB's, for example Korea and Vietnam, both of which are very important subjects in their own right, and include definite aircraft types. For this GB, just think 'Russia' versus 'The West', over a period of forty plus years! There must be over 100 types to choose from, from a multitude of Air Forces and Navies, and it should provide a heck of a lot of variety, making a change from all the FW190s, P51s etc.
Bear in mind that, in the GB's so far, there has been a lot of repetition of types - similar colours, just different locations etc., so this GB should be the one which will be really different - if a bit difficult to define!
EDIT:- I will add this though - if there is a provenance for a particular subject you want to model, which might not be directly linked to what is considered the 'Cold War', then, given that suitable background info can be provided, that subject very well might be elligible. For instance, let's say that during the Suez Crisis, RAF Spitfire 19's were employed on photo-recce work, to photograph suspected troop concentations on the Egyption border, and this was because it was thought that the Russians had sent an armoured divison to support Nassa's forces. This could lead to an escalation of the situation, thereby leading to all-out war between the West and the Soviet Union.
In this instance, that would indicate a strong association with the 'Cold War', and therefore models of RAF Spitfire 19's, operating in that theatre, would be elligible for the GB. In fact, the same type operating with RAF Germany during the late 1940's/ early 1950's would be elligible, as they were 'in the Cold War'.
Bear in mind that, in the GB's so far, there has been a lot of repetition of types - similar colours, just different locations etc., so this GB should be the one which will be really different - if a bit difficult to define!
EDIT:- I will add this though - if there is a provenance for a particular subject you want to model, which might not be directly linked to what is considered the 'Cold War', then, given that suitable background info can be provided, that subject very well might be elligible. For instance, let's say that during the Suez Crisis, RAF Spitfire 19's were employed on photo-recce work, to photograph suspected troop concentations on the Egyption border, and this was because it was thought that the Russians had sent an armoured divison to support Nassa's forces. This could lead to an escalation of the situation, thereby leading to all-out war between the West and the Soviet Union.
In this instance, that would indicate a strong association with the 'Cold War', and therefore models of RAF Spitfire 19's, operating in that theatre, would be elligible for the GB. In fact, the same type operating with RAF Germany during the late 1940's/ early 1950's would be elligible, as they were 'in the Cold War'.
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Benevolens Magister
Nice one! Look forward to seeing those, especially that strange bird the Cutlass - don't see them very often.
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Still undecided between these.....
1. E/E Lightning, either No. 74 or No. 111 Squadron.
2. F4 Phantom from No. 111 Squadron.
3. J35F/J Draken from 13th Fighter Wing and numbered '13'....
4. F-8 Crusader, not yet decided...
5. A-1H Skyraider, not yet decided...
6. MiG-21, not yet decided...
1. E/E Lightning, either No. 74 or No. 111 Squadron.
2. F4 Phantom from No. 111 Squadron.
3. J35F/J Draken from 13th Fighter Wing and numbered '13'....
4. F-8 Crusader, not yet decided...
5. A-1H Skyraider, not yet decided...
6. MiG-21, not yet decided...
vikingBerserker
Lieutenant General
I like the F7-U Choice, very cool!
My possibilities so far:
1 - Isreali IAI Kfir
2 - SAAB Ja-37 Viggen with the (splinter camo scheme below)
3 - South African Atlas Cheetah
I'm really leaning towards the Viggen.
pic from http://www.mamboccv.com/JA37Viggen_57_F7_SwedishAF_950724.JPG
My possibilities so far:
1 - Isreali IAI Kfir
2 - SAAB Ja-37 Viggen with the (splinter camo scheme below)
3 - South African Atlas Cheetah
I'm really leaning towards the Viggen.
pic from http://www.mamboccv.com/JA37Viggen_57_F7_SwedishAF_950724.JPG
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A4K
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GO THE VIGGEN!!!!!!
Catch22
Major
Viggen for for sure. Excuse me
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