What do you play?

ndicki · Oct 21, 2006

Or this:

ndicki · Oct 21, 2006

The great thing is, of course, that you can import a load of stuff from other developers - aircraft, sounds, effects, clouds, skins, voicepacks, etc - which you cannot do in IL-2, where all you can do is change the skins, and hope Oleg will make you the aircraft you want at a price you can afford.

Most of what you see here is freeware - although the B_17 is from a commercial add-on, (but there is a new, free B-17 available at AvHistory), the skins are free; I confress - I did them, too!

lesofprimus · Oct 21, 2006

I like IL-2 better, and its more realistic as well as a flight model...

ndicki · Oct 21, 2006

lesofprimus said:
I like IL-2 better, and its more realistic as well as a flight model...

Than stock CFS3, possibly, although I suspect that Oleg has a soft spot for VVS stuff...

Having said that, there is a team of incredibly dedicated people at Avhistory.org, who aim - and succeed - at providing air files which give the aircraft performances within 1% of the originals. This is done by the use of physics and calculation, not "I think it flew like this", and the results are incredible. They have become the standard for serious users, as opposed to the arcade players. Check it out.

the lancaster kicks ass · Oct 21, 2006

other than the last set of shots there and the cool British aircraft i think IL-2 looks better, but whilst we're posting here's what i thought to be rather ammusing B-24 shots

sources on right click

ndicki · Oct 21, 2006

Mickey the Moocher was a Lancaster.

We've got two in CFS3, one payware, and one freeware.

Just look at the engine nacelles and count the sides! Sorry, but it'll take more than that to convince me.

At the moment, I've got several different Lancs, including B.I Specials, Stirlings, Halibags, Wellingtons, Whitleys, Manchesters, Blenheims MkI and MkIV, and Battles. That's just RAF bombers.

Otherwise, several different types of Hurricane, including tropicalized, Spits of all types, Gladiators, Tomahawks, Kittyhawks, Morane 406, Dewoitine 520, Potez 633, 631 and 63-11, etc, etc, etc. Nearly all free, and good quality with it.

The great thing is, if you can't find one, you can learn to make it.

And with all the mods available, the visuals are really excellent!

the lancaster kicks ass · Oct 21, 2006

yes i know it's supposed to be a lancaster i managed to spot that one as well, the reason they've done that is because at the time this was done several years ago there weren't really any lanc out there so they did this for a laugh, i think they did a good job!

ndicki · Oct 22, 2006

the lancaster kicks *** said:
this was done several years ago there weren't really any lanc out there

As far as I know - I haven't updated IL/FB for some time - there still isn't. The skinning is fine, that's not the problem, and I've done similar things when no aircraft of the right type was available.

The problem I have when chatting with IL/FB players is that they tend to judge CFS3 by the from-the-box product, and not by the end result. We - I mean, not just the Med Air War team, but also the many other designers who are good but just not involved in MAW - have essentially re-created just about everything from the .exe up - and the results are incredible. We joke about it as "CFS4", in fact. Another major add-on which has already been released - also free - is OFF, a First World War extension. There is also a very good Korean War add-on. I'm also involved in a Battle Of France project. That is what I find best about the MS sims - there are very few limitations to what you can do to them.

And between OFF, MAW, and all the other freeware mods and add-ons, you are in for a real trip!

And with that, I suggest we move this to another string, and hand this one back to the guys with the bats and balls...

DerAdlerIstGelandet · Oct 22, 2006

Personally I think Il-2s screen shots look better.

ndicki · Oct 22, 2006

No accounting for prejudice!

DerAdlerIstGelandet · Oct 22, 2006

No I call it taste!

the lancaster kicks ass · Oct 22, 2006

Il-2 does look better to be frank, and now you can buy a lancaster add on for FS2004 with 6 or so lancs, a mossie and possibly a manchester add on..........

ndicki · Oct 23, 2006

Can't see it myself - look at the ground textures, trees, etc; not much detail.

Bear in mind I'm not using very high resolution, and the anti-aliasing is off to get better fps.

DerAdlerIstGelandet · Oct 23, 2006

I think Il-2s detail is more for the aircraft itself. The aircraft look so much better than CFS.

102first_hussars · Oct 27, 2006

I play alot of Hockey for a league in my community, its not a competitive league, but its hockey so its competitive and violent notheless

lesofprimus · Oct 27, 2006

Just one period of hockey... Thats all I need is one single period of hockey with u on the opposing team hussars...

The release of pent up stress would be heard all the way to New Mexico..

102first_hussars · Oct 28, 2006

Bring it

lesofprimus · Oct 28, 2006

U do happen to recall that I played in the ECHL dont u hussars???

102first_hussars · Oct 28, 2006

Awesome, good for you really i mean that sincerely, not very many people can say that, buuuut i have also been playing hockey since the age of six, i played for the Edmonton Ice for 2 years, Edmonton Ice used to be the Farm Team for the Oilers, then i shattered my my right knee, but it was repaired and still play community till this day

rochie · Dec 5, 2006

i played rugby for my local team and sevens for my cadet unitwe were national cadet rugby sevens champions 2 years running i was scrum half and did a bit of kicking, got my knees bent the wrong way so dont play any more do a bit of kicking practice now and again though

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