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[fubar57]

I believe you are correct sir. I just found out about Giallo Chromo 7 and mine does look closer to RLM 27. Nice of Vallejo to make a good mistake. I'll have to add a bit of red to get 04 methinks

 

[Wurger]

RLM 04

RLM 27

Giallo Cromo 7

 

[Wayne Little]

Look forward to your mottling effort....

 

[fubar57]

Heading in for night-shifts Wayne so it'll be a bit. For my first attempt I did have to pick an aircraft that is heavily mottled, spinner to boot

 

[Crimea_River]

Have fun with that. It's all about pressure (I go low, Wayne goes high) and paint mix (thin).

 

[fubar57]

Thanks Andy. My plan is to mix up way too much paint. I found in the past when practising that the tan tip and the airbrush turned almost all the way down works very nice with a normal Tamiya 2:1 mix at 20ish PSI. I'll start there and then deviate if need be

 

[turbo]

FWIW I thin my paint right down and slowly build up the mottle to the desired appearance. It turns out something like this.

I think if you use a normal paint consistency it ends up looking like unrealistic paint blobs. I realise your mottle scheme is more defined patterns than this "cloudy" scheme sometimes seen on 109s, but the principle is to soften the appearance of the mottle. Good luck!

 

[JKim]

Mottles are always tricky. I'm like Kirby and like to use a highly thinned mixture that allows me to "build" up each mottle as opposed to trying to get it right with one spurt. A thinner mixture also reduces the grain of the spray. Either way, looking forward to what you come up with!

 

[fubar57]

Sprayed on RLM 76 using Vallejo Model Air 71.046 Pale Blue Grey. They've changed numbers and names over time so I think I have an early version. A quick check on Google shows that the bottle is now 71.257 Light Blue/RLM 76.

 

[Wurger]

Looking good.

 

[Crimea_River]

Whatever it's called, it looks about right.

 

[Airframes]

Yep, looks right, and a nice finish too.

 

[fubar57]

Thanks guys. Straight from the bottle Terry @ 20psi, and no mixing. Right now I'm trying to figure out the Vallejo number for RLM 74 as I think this bottle is older as well. I'm thinking/hoping its 71.054/Dark Grey Blue. Its been sitting for quite a while so plenty of shaking is in progress

 

[Wurger]

The Vallejo Model Air 71258 Grey Green RLM 74

Here you are the set of Vallejo colours with numbers and names ......

• 71.257 Light Blue RLM76
• 71.258 Gray Green RLM74
• 71.259 Gray Violet RLM75
• 71.255 Light Blue RLM65
• 71.256 Green RLM73
• 71.263 Green RLM72
• 71.264 Brown Violet RLM81
• 71.265 Olive Green RLM80
• 71.278 Sand Yellow RLM79

 

[le_steph40]

Yep, looks right, and a nice finish too.

Agree !!!

 

[Gnomey]

Looks good so far George!

 

[turbo]

Good start Geo!

 

[fubar57]

Thanks gents. Sadly, both bottles I have for RLM 74 & 75 aren't close to the colours. I bought these a long time ago so I believe they were from a period when Vallejo got some of their colours wrong as both of these are very dark grey. When things like this go sideways I tend to lose ambition and enthusiasm. I've got a bottle of Pollyscale RLM 74, very old but it looks like its held out well. I'm searching for a Tamiya mix for the 75. I've found three but not sure which or any are correct: this is one of them...XF-24 Dk. Grey, XF-51 Khaki Drab, XF-2 Flat White 1/1/1. Another is XF-24 Dk. Grey, XF-50 Field Blue, XF-2 Ft. White 5/1/2. The third is just two colours, XF-24 Dk. Grey, XF-50 Field Blue 5/1. I don't have XF-50 and very little of the others. I've also found a source that says XF-63 German Grey is a close match for RLM 74, and XF-75 IJN Gray (Kure Arsenal) is a close match for RLM 75. I'll see if I can get motivated enough to work on the other thread..........

 

[Wurger]

 

[Crimea_River]

You might find that the Pollyscale stuff doesn't spray well. I could never get these to work but it was in my early days of using the brush.

I have found RLM 75 to be a bit of a minefield. It's description is Grauviolet, suggesting that the colour was a grey with a purplish tinge, hence the suggested use of Blue.

The batch that I have made (used on my FW190A-5 build right now) has ben bastardized over a few builds but I'm guessing that it is APPROXIMATELY:

7:XF-24 + 1:XF-9 + 2:XF-2

Wayne uses a very different mix of greys and greens I think whereas mine has that bit of Hull Red in it.

For RLM 74 I use:

3:XF-24 + 2:XF-27