ME 209 V5

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  1. fam43

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    #1 fam43, Aug 14, 2009
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    Hi,
    Holidays are over now so le us start a new topioc:

    There is another plane which I wanted to built for years namely the ME 209 V5 not mistaken for the Bf 209 racing plane.

    There is only one pic to date of this mysterious ship to my knowledge.
    There is a 1:72 drawing in a chech mag. "Monografie Lotnicze Messerschmitt Me 109 CZ.3 " and an old one of the german artist Gerd W: Heumann who rets in peace for some decades in the german mag. "Flugwelt" from the late fiftees.

    There is a fair amount of written documents however which state that is was an attempt of the notorious and selfapointed "genius" Prof. Messerschmitt to regain some ground against the longnosed FW 190 of Kurt Tank. Performance of the ME 209 was lackluster at best having a speedhandicap of up to 25 mph against the Doras which started coming of the assembling lines when only prototypes of the Me 209 existed.
    A little footnote:
    Around 1938 to 39 Gerhard Schmued left Messerschmitt for political and racist problems. He went to the USA and became Chief design engineer of the P51 Mustang at NAA. He once said: "Messerschmitt will never be able to construct a high performance piston engined fighter". To the dismay of german fighter pilots Schmued was awfully right.

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    #2 fam43, Aug 14, 2009
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    The old drawing of G. W. Heumann:

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    Well not to much background for a scrachting a model nevertheless I started the project.
     
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    As ever when I start a nonstandard 109 model I take my old friends, the Matchbox Emil and the old Revell G. I've some stock of them bought in the early eighties.

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    In 1989 I used the two to produce a G10.

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    The start.

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    My plan:

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    Great start mate! (Love your G-10 too!)

    (Thanks for a nice memory too...I used to have that Matchbox 109E...( loudly blows his nose in a handkerchief...)
     
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    Great stuff mate! :)
     
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    Nice start ...keep working.:D
     
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    Any idea how long it might take you?
     
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    Nice looking start!
     
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    Looks interesting indeed
    Not seen that Gustav box art in a long while
     
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    I have this if it's any help
     

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    #14 Maximowitz, Aug 14, 2009
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    Not really. The Bf 109 was, in its day, a very high performance fighter, the later versions just as good as the P51 Mustang. If you use the search engine you'll find that this has been discussed at length many times on the forum. It was only the level of attrition, poor training of Luftwaffe pilots and overwhelming numerical superiority that tipped the balance.

    As far as I'm aware (and I admit I'm no expert on the P51) the original design by Schmued was hideously overweight and it was only with help from studying British design and manufacturing that an improved airframe could result. And there's the small matter of the Rolls Royce Merlin engine...
     
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    Moreover , if "Monografie Lotinicze" it means that it is AJ-Press publication and it is not a magazine.What is more, not a Czech (chech ??????) but Polish issue.
     
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    Those A-J Press books are wonderful! Essential in my humble opinion.
     
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    That's true.:)
     
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    I love this type of scratch, great stuff here...

    CanĀ“t wait to see it finished..
     
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    Good start, and I too am happy to see the old Matchbox 'Emil' - I've still got mine, after 35 years!!
     
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    This is really fascinating. I'd heard of the racing version but not the other. Great project micheal, I've learned from it.
     
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