Shall we bring back the Lurverly Ladies Thread???

[Bullockracing]

OK, I'm dumb. What's sunning?

 

[evangilder]

I am against. My concern here is that there are interpretations for what is considered decent/indecent. I would hate for websense, netnanny or cybersitter to classify us an adult site. Then we would be filtered from many places because someone considered a hooters girl to be obscene. The key is that people are able to access the historical and factual info on this site. There are many other places to go to look at pinup girls. This WW2aircraft.net, not bikinibimbobabes.net.

 

[Bullockracing]

I agree with evanglider to an extent. There are other threads on this site that are not historical or factual, but it will be up to the site admins to ensure that this site isn't slammed by websense, netnanny or cybersitter, effectively killing my ability to get here from work...

 

[Tiger]

If you don't post the pictures only link to them would the site still count as pornographic by netgranny or whatever its called?

 

[evangilder]

Yep. They are content filters and depending on who is looking at any given time, it can get tagged to be filtered. Once your site gets put on a content filter, others follow and it is next to impossible to get back off that list.

I want to make sure that we can be accessed by everyone, of all ages. This is a site about history and technology and I want to stay classified as such.

 

[Bullockracing]

Ok, that being said, evanglider, to err on the side of caution might not be a bad idea...

 

[Henk]

Well if the rules are set out so that it is set out specifically what is decent and what not then they would know. So I think if you firstly put out what is decent and what is not then there wont be trouble and they would know what is expected of them.

The dope who does not know the difference between Porn and Pictures of woman in swimwear is a idiot.

Henk

 

[Bullockracing]

I do recall seeing a recent post from a junior member getting to this site from high school, and if the ladies' thread is questionable, the end result could be the same. I would be content with a nose art thread, to include fantasy nose art (not actually on a plane, but in the same style).

 

[evangilder]

Well if the rules are set out so that it is set out specifically what is decent and what not then they would know. So I think if you firstly put out what is decent and what is not then there wont be trouble and they would know what is expected of them.

The dope who does not know the difference between Porn and Pictures of woman in swimwear is a idiot.

Henk

It's not about what WE think is objectionable, it is what someone else might. Personally, I have no problem with nudity, when done tastefully, but that would never fly with the web filters, obviously. But our definition of what is and not decent would only be our definition. And because that is a very broad interpretation, content filter screeners could tag this site as adult oriented. Then you can forget ever having this site accessible from schools. Like I said, once it gets in the crosshairs of the filters, you are stuck. Getting removed from those lists is not something that I have seen any site get back off of.

Again, this is a site about airplanes and aviation. There are very very few like it and I would hate to see school access cut from it because someone wants to see some chick in a swimsuit. 'nuff said

 

[Henk]

It's not about what WE think is objectionable, it is what someone else might. Personally, I have no problem with nudity, when done tastefully, but that would never fly with the web filters, obviously. But our definition of what is and not decent would only be our definition. And because that is a very broad interpretation, content filter screeners could tag this site as adult oriented. Then you can forget ever having this site accessible from schools. Like I said, once it gets in the crosshairs of the filters, you are stuck. Getting removed from those lists is not something that I have seen any site get back off of.

Again, this is a site about airplanes and aviation. There are very very few like it and I would hate to see school access cut from it because someone wants to see some chick in a swimsuit. 'nuff said

I understand what you are saying mate and the last say still lies with you mods and with horse if he has a say in this.

Henk

 

[Tiger]

Is this site already on some "obscene" list? Because the only way I can get access at college is going via a proxy server. Would this site have been listed when the previous ladies thread was alive, or is it just my college censoring certain forums that may be view as "chat" forums?

 

[Nonskimmer]

Im not too bothered but personally im against it - some goons will always break the rules and it will end up the same as the other ones. More trouble than its worth.

I agree.

I am against. My concern here is that there are interpretations for what is considered decent/indecent. I would hate for websense, netnanny or cybersitter to classify us an adult site. Then we would be filtered from many places because someone considered a hooters girl to be obscene. The key is that people are able to access the historical and factual info on this site. There are many other places to go to look at pinup girls. This WW2aircraft.net, not bikinibimbobabes.net.

Well said.

Count one more against.

 

[evangilder]

Is this site already on some "obscene" list? Because the only way I can get access at college is going via a proxy server. Would this site have been listed when the previous ladies thread was alive, or is it just my college censoring certain forums that may be view as "chat" forums?

There is no way to know what your school's policy is on their content filters. As far as I know, we dodged a bullet last time with it.

 

[the lancaster kicks ass]

our school filtered the pages where CC posted all them pics of himself and the unfortunate cream incident

 

[Maestro]

Okay... Looks like a senior member should play the Devil's lawyer... And looks like it fell on me.

I agree with Les. We should bring it back, but with very clear rules. If you break the rules, you get banned.

Personnally (and may be it's only because of my 12% of French origins), I think that there is not really a big difference between the picture of a "real" girl in bikini and the picture of a bomber's nose art. Does enyone here ever saw the nose art of the B-25 called the "Apache Princess" ? That nose art could be judged more "offensive" than 10 pictures of girls in bikinis.

If I had a little more guts, I would post a picture of a girl in bikini I have here and one of the "Apache Princess" and ask you which one you think is more offensive.

If I remember well, the reason why the last thread was closed down was because some members who didn't understand English very well like Sunny (he said it himself) posted some pictures that were more... nude. But if we have clear rules (no pubic hairs, no camel toes, no boobs) written in bold in the first post, I think there won't be any problem.

 

[the lancaster kicks ass]

if it is bought back the warnings about what you can/can't post and punishments should either be made the first post on each page, or somewhere at the top of the page.......

 

[lesofprimus]

10 : 5 in favor of bringing it back..........

I think the Lanc has a great idea as far as posting at the top of each page the rules and repercussions for posting lady pics....

I would accept the responsibility of editing/policing/Moderating this thread, if we so decide to bring it back.......

That being said, I do share the same feelings as evan and NS on this concerning the content filters, and feel that this thread would/could cause some problems in that department, if it is not diligently overseen....

 

[plan_D]

I don't care. But I see Eric's point more than anyone elses.

 

[syscom3]

And what happens when one of those idiots does post an obscene picture and before a moderator can remove it?

Just by having a "girl" section could get this site banned on more lists.

And pictures of "noseart" hardly ever falls under a porn catagory, any more than Michaelangelo's artwork.

 

[cheddar cheese]

Well said Eric.