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I think anyone arguing that lockdown is not efficient is not thinking clearly.
I think a much more interesting debate is how strict this lockdown has to be. So at what point do extra measurements stop being significant.
For instance The Netherlands and Belgium are demographically quite similar. The pandemic reached these countries almost simultaneously. While the Belgians has a very strict lockdown, we had slightly less so. Still in both countries the curve seems to be the same. The number of ICU patients started to decline at about the same moment with the same rate. Based on that, admittedly single, example, one could argue that the extra measures taken by the Belgians were not significant. One could argue that the NL did it slightly better as the little bit more freedom lessened the mental burden for the population.
On the other hand, both countries fared better than Brazil, so both lockdowns seem to be more efficient than doing nothing.

Admittedly this is pure anecdotal evidence, so maybe these observations should be taken with a grain of salt.

One remark about the efficiency of the New Zealand lockdown is that NZ are islands in the middle of a big ocean, while European countries are not. So more has to be considered when comparing countries at how well they did.

Marcel,

I agree, and your ideas were sound, your thought processes were logical and your words were clearly stated and succinct. You did not even attack anyone. That post has no place on social media.:)
 
Marcel,

I agree, and your ideas were sound, your thought processes were logical and your words were clearly stated and succinct. You did not even attack anyone. That post has no place on social media.:)

Maybe people are just following examples made by others in important high positions. Lead by example right? We'll let them remain unnamed though.

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Now I'm hearing that virus has mutated into a more contagious and deadly form. However, it has also been said that when or if an effective vaccine is developed, the vaccination will still be effective.
 
Minnesota report, June 21
cases 32,919, recovered ??,???, hospitalized 3,797, deaths 1,380, tested 504,473
fatality rate 4.2%
mortality rate 242.1 per million
test rate 88.5 per thousand
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Minnesota report, June 22
cases 33,227, recovered 29,065, hospitalized 3,830, deaths 1,384, tested 513,137
fatality rate 4.2%
mortality rate 242.8 per million
test rate 90 per thousand
 
Minnesota report, June 23
cases 33,469, recovered 29,399, hospitalized 3,860, deaths 1,393, tested 520,045
fatality rate 4.2%
mortality rate 244.4 per million
test rate 91.3 per thousand

The MN rate of spread appears to be decreasing significantly, with the number of hospitalized COVID-19 cases dropping from 606 on 28 April, to 339 as of 23 June. This decrease in the rate of spread is approximately confirmed by the new case rate (in spite of the grossly increased test rate) and death rate as shown by the following charts. YAY!

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Vermont's governor and staff, in their Wednesday Coronavirus press briefing today, said our rates of infection and hospitalization are deemed "unreliable" by federal standards, as being so low as to "fall within the statistical margin of error".
Don't come here unless you want to go into solitary for fourteen days.
 
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Minnesota report, June 24
cases 33,763, recovered 29,707, hospitalized 3,897, deaths 1,397, tested 529,643
fatality rate 4.1%
mortality rate 245.1 per million
test rate 92.9 per thousand
 
Well Florida and Texas just announced they are going back into partial lockdowns. Huge spikes in ICU cases. Apparently Houston is almost at 100%. Florida announced they are at 81%. Everything we were trying to avoid.

Yet the rest of the industrial western world is getting through this.Do people still think that the response from our leadership and population is not a joke?

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Minnesota report, June 25
cases 34,118, recovered ??,???, hospitalized 3,943, deaths 1,406, tested 542,718
fatality rate 4.1%
mortality rate 246.7 per million
test rate 95.2 per thousand
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Minnesota report, June 26
cases 34,616, recovered 30,008, hospitalized 3,966, deaths 1,411, tested 557,278
fatality rate 4.1%
mortality rate 247.5 per million
test rate 97.8 per thousand
 
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