at6
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We're pretty much on lock down with social distancing. We can still go to the park or for walks but no close proximity to anyone. There goes a lot of sex lives
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.Zinc is a metal used in rust prevention, we need to galvanize ourselves into being precise with the names of chemical compounds.
Yes, and is also used a vitamin supplement.
Zinc? Or Zinc acetate, zinc gluconate? Licking a sheet of galvanized steel wont do you any good at all ever.
michael rauls
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Ok, no problem. Just thought I might be able to help friends from un necessary suffering or perhaps worse in light of the current situation. Even though nutrition and medicine are one of my life long interests and areas of study I wont refrence them again. It will be difficult when someone here is sick and I know something that will almost certainly help but I will hold my tounge so to speak.
Ok, no problem. Just thought I might be able to help friends from un necessary suffering or perhaps worse in light of the current situation. Even though nutrition and medicine are one of my life long interests and areas of study I wont refrence them again. It will be difficult when someone here is sick and I know something that will almost certainly help but I will hold my tounge so to speak.
So despite Doctors saying that it is uncertain and further testing is required, you know you that it will certainly help?
Gnomey , you are an actual doctor, who went to years of medical school, and works as a medical professional, do you think it is wise to tell people to pop a few pills to ward off a virus that have not been properly tested and confirmed to work?
TheMadPenguin
Senior Airman
That would depend on whether said pills were available to me, and how sick I am. BUT (more to your point) I wouldn't suggest to others to take said pills, but study the matter the best you can and decide for yourself what to do.
michael rauls
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I was referencing other situations like a ketogenic diet for diabetes for example.So despite Doctors saying that it is uncertain and further testing is required, you know you that it will certainly help?
Not saying im any medical genius or any smarter than anyone else. Its just ive read alot of literature/ studies that others may not have due to having several chronic conditions that I have been able to cure by the way, Diabetes, high blood pressure and GIRD. It took over a decade of study and experamentation with diet etc but I no longer suffer from those ailments. I just cant stand to see others suffer if I have been through the same thing and know what will help or even if its not something ive been through and I think I know something that might help. What kind of person would I be if I kept such information to myself.
I will however keep any such knowledge to myself in the future.
Then you use other forums to pass on untrained medical advice.
One final last time...
You have no clue what will get rid of coronavirus. Neither do I. Neither doanyone else. You are not a doctor, and we will not have people getting possible ill advice on how to prevent or treat a novel virus. That is the job of a person's doctor.
I have consulted with the other staff of this forum and they agree.
michael rauls
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I never said anybody SHOULD take anything. And I never mentioned pills unless one considers a LOW DOSE zinc supplement a pill. I summarised and aggregated research, readily available to anyone if they care to look.......Thought it might help.
michael rauls
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Ok, No problem. You asked me a question in your post so I answered you honestly. I said I would not and have not suggested anything additional helpful in regards to diet etc.
Here is my final and last thought on this. If medical experts perform tests on a drug (chloroquine for instance) and they determine that at a specific dosage for a specific time will stop coronavirus, then by all means do so on your doctors orders. I would.
As for zinc the recommended daily dosage by medical experts is between 8 and 11 mg, not 50 mg or any other number (40 mg is the upper limit for adults, it's 4 mg for infants). It interferes with certain antibiotics. Taken at high doses or for an extended period of time can cause copper deficiency.
As for zinc the recommended daily dosage by medical experts is between 8 and 11 mg, not 50 mg or any other number (40 mg is the upper limit for adults, it's 4 mg for infants). It interferes with certain antibiotics. Taken at high doses or for an extended period of time can cause copper deficiency.
Crimea_River
Marshal
Post 927 is very worrisome.
Just to put this to bed.
THERE IS NO EFFECTIVE TREATMENT FOR COVID-19 OTHER THAN SUPPORTIVE CARE. THIS IS WHY THE ISOLATION AND LOCKDOWNS ARE HAPPENING.
There have been small scale trials with a variety of agents. These include chloroquine, antivirals, anti-HIV meds and others. All have been less than 50 people with generally poor results and no significant improvement in mortality, length of stay or duration of intubation. We are looking at everything that might help and doing everything to find more effective treatments. There's nothing yet though.
Everyone reacts differently to the virus those that are most unwell suffer due to cytokine storm and the onset of adult respiratory distress syndrome, pulmonary oedema and multi-organ failure. These are the ITU cases with poor prognosis. Initial treatment is oxygen as needed, antibiotics (to cover concurrent and later developing bacterial pneumonia), fluids as needed and help them though. Similar to flu management expert we have antivirals that help with flu.
Symptoms and manner of spread are similar to flu however COVID-19 is 3 times more infectious as 3-10 times more deadly.
To put it in context.
1 person with flu infects on average 1.3-1.5 others. After 10 cycles of spread that's 14 people from 1 index case. Now for COVID-19 this is as follows:
1 person infects roughly 3 people and those 3 infect and so for 10 cycles that 1 index case would spread to 59,000 people.
Just think about that for a minute.
No health system can cope with the numbers if unconfined spread occurs there are just too many that are too unwell and not enough ventilators available. It would be catastrophic. That is why we are trying to flatten the curve so we can cope with the numbers. Thousands (probably hundreds of thousands all told) will die but it would be millions without isolation procedures.
Stay inside, keep your distance and don't listen to hacks on the internet. If you have symptoms isolate, call your GP and go from there. Leave it with the professionals not the toilet paper hoarders.
M michael rauls
This ends here. I will not tolerate the posting of unsubstantiated (and unreferenced) medication advice that may influence others and cause undue harm to others even if unwittingly. Anymore and you can spend some time at the beach thinking it all over.
THERE IS NO EFFECTIVE TREATMENT FOR COVID-19 OTHER THAN SUPPORTIVE CARE. THIS IS WHY THE ISOLATION AND LOCKDOWNS ARE HAPPENING.
There have been small scale trials with a variety of agents. These include chloroquine, antivirals, anti-HIV meds and others. All have been less than 50 people with generally poor results and no significant improvement in mortality, length of stay or duration of intubation. We are looking at everything that might help and doing everything to find more effective treatments. There's nothing yet though.
Everyone reacts differently to the virus those that are most unwell suffer due to cytokine storm and the onset of adult respiratory distress syndrome, pulmonary oedema and multi-organ failure. These are the ITU cases with poor prognosis. Initial treatment is oxygen as needed, antibiotics (to cover concurrent and later developing bacterial pneumonia), fluids as needed and help them though. Similar to flu management expert we have antivirals that help with flu.
Symptoms and manner of spread are similar to flu however COVID-19 is 3 times more infectious as 3-10 times more deadly.
To put it in context.
1 person with flu infects on average 1.3-1.5 others. After 10 cycles of spread that's 14 people from 1 index case. Now for COVID-19 this is as follows:
1 person infects roughly 3 people and those 3 infect and so for 10 cycles that 1 index case would spread to 59,000 people.
Just think about that for a minute.
No health system can cope with the numbers if unconfined spread occurs there are just too many that are too unwell and not enough ventilators available. It would be catastrophic. That is why we are trying to flatten the curve so we can cope with the numbers. Thousands (probably hundreds of thousands all told) will die but it would be millions without isolation procedures.
Stay inside, keep your distance and don't listen to hacks on the internet. If you have symptoms isolate, call your GP and go from there. Leave it with the professionals not the toilet paper hoarders.
M michael rauls
This ends here. I will not tolerate the posting of unsubstantiated (and unreferenced) medication advice that may influence others and cause undue harm to others even if unwittingly. Anymore and you can spend some time at the beach thinking it all over.
Thank you Dr. Gnomey. 
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