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Erich
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you can trust EE for profile interpretation as well as their decals. in the first volume of the Dora these are covered in great detail. get their decals. of note and I am no expert on camo but the JG 301 Doras are quite different in camo than JG 2's, JG 26, JG 4. - where the greys are a strong point. JG 301 has a predominance of deep green over the cowling and along the ridge-spine up to the tail mixed with brown-violet if you would see some decent profile work it becomes very apparent.
you can trust EE for profile interpretation as well as their decals. in the first volume of the Dora these are covered in great detail. get their decals. of note and I am no expert on camo but the JG 301 Doras are quite different in camo than JG 2's, JG 26, JG 4. - where the greys are a strong point. JG 301 has a predominance of deep green over the cowling and along the ridge-spine up to the tail mixed with brown-violet if you would see some decent profile work it becomes very apparent.
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Sounds intersting Catch, but I got the red cross as well, couldn't open your final pic. BTW, Nibel's machine, with the earlier 'flat' canopy, wasn't based in Belgium, it belly-landed in Belgium on Jan 1 1945, after being hit during Bodenplatte. Far as I know, the decals/markings are based on pics of the belly-landed aircraft.
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Ah k, thanks guys!
I'll re-host the picture and post it again.
Erich: I think the decals are fine for the JG 2 bird, except for the bands which are easy to circumvent. I do not have a Werknummer however. I do trust EE, I just couldn't find a better picture of their decals.
Njaco: I will take a look at the traders and see.
Terry: So Nibel's bird still wouldn't be defence of the Reich?
I'll re-host the picture and post it again.
Erich: I think the decals are fine for the JG 2 bird, except for the bands which are easy to circumvent. I do not have a Werknummer however. I do trust EE, I just couldn't find a better picture of their decals.
Njaco: I will take a look at the traders and see.
Terry: So Nibel's bird still wouldn't be defence of the Reich?
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I think I've made a choice in regards to what planes I'm NOT doing. Yellow 15 is out, as is Black 12. So that really leaves it down to ||> and another almost identical ||> I've found. The thing about this new second one is I can find pictures of it easier, as I have it in a book and I've seen somebody do a Hasegawa Dora in that scheme, and it's really sharp. The big reason though is I already have the decals needed, save for the Werknummer, so I don't know what I'd do there. Also, the swastikas and black crosses are faded, how would I go about doing that with my decals? Or should I try to find a stencil and paint them? I'm also sure I'll be able to find/paint the numbers on the tail.
Here is the build I'm talking about, by Chris Wauchop:
Focke-Wulf Fw 190D-9 by Chris Wauchop (Hasegawa 1/32)
Here is the build I'm talking about, by Chris Wauchop:
Focke-Wulf Fw 190D-9 by Chris Wauchop (Hasegawa 1/32)
Cory, there are definitely TWO Stab/JG2 aircraft with the II> markings.
The one you have just posted was shot down 1st Jan 45 while the second was found belly landed at the end of the war.
The first was W.Nr 210194 with Large Black fuselage crosses and Stab markings, while the second aircraft is a 600.XXX series aircraft with smaller white Fuselage Crosses. The Stab marking is also slightly smaller as depicted in your decals.
The one you have just posted was shot down 1st Jan 45 while the second was found belly landed at the end of the war.
The first was W.Nr 210194 with Large Black fuselage crosses and Stab markings, while the second aircraft is a 600.XXX series aircraft with smaller white Fuselage Crosses. The Stab marking is also slightly smaller as depicted in your decals.
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Oh I see it now, I never noticed that before! Well, that settles that haha. I would like to do this one out of box, as I'm sure I'll be throttled by my mom if I spend anything more on models! 
Ok, so the SECOND plane, the one that comes with my model, will be the one I'm doing. From what I can see from the LQ picture of the EE decals I posted, the side markings seem accurate, though the side cross black may be a little dark. What's eating at me though is if the colours are right in the instructions, as you guys have already told me, there are already some stuff wrong with them. Would anybody be able to tell me if these colours are right?
The undersides/sides are listed as Lichtblau, which I would assume is correct.
The darker topside colour is listed as Grauviolett.
The lighter topside colour is listed as Dunkelgrün.
Ok, so the SECOND plane, the one that comes with my model, will be the one I'm doing. From what I can see from the LQ picture of the EE decals I posted, the side markings seem accurate, though the side cross black may be a little dark. What's eating at me though is if the colours are right in the instructions, as you guys have already told me, there are already some stuff wrong with them. Would anybody be able to tell me if these colours are right?
The undersides/sides are listed as Lichtblau, which I would assume is correct.
The darker topside colour is listed as Grauviolett.
The lighter topside colour is listed as Dunkelgrün.
Cory, there are a lot of pics of this aircraft, I will post some for your reference after I get home from work tonight,will review camo as well, only just started work, if you need some decals for corrections I can do this too.
The fuselage cross should be white outline only with camo colour filling in the cross.
The fuselage cross should be white outline only with camo colour filling in the cross.
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Ah, I see. Thanks a bunch Wayne!
So the cross is just white with the Lichtblau showing through? Or do you mean it's filled in with one of the upper camo colours?
So the cross is just white with the Lichtblau showing through? Or do you mean it's filled in with one of the upper camo colours?
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Thanks Wojtek, but unforunately I only see the first picture you mentioned.
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Ah, sorry for the confusion sir! Thanks again!
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Yeah, that's the one that's in "Walk Around Fw 190D". The Crosses seem wrong, if I go by EE's rendition of course.
Erich
the old Sage
refer to EE's version on their profile of W. Hohenbergs mount
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Will do Erich!
Looking at these decals a bit closer, they're not printed very well!
Looking at these decals a bit closer, they're not printed very well!
Yes these crosses seem to be painted with RLM75 but Im not convinced fully.Look at the pic I found.It is of better quality , the white number 41 is clearly visible on the rudder.Also I found a profile of better quality.In addition I found a pic af the second machins of the Stab JG2.The difference is clearly visible.Also notice please that the second Dora had the late cockpit conopy.
Source...Jagdwaffe vol.5 Defending the Reich 1944-45.
Also attached the next old profile as the first pic.I think it should have showed rater the second Dora because of the cockpit conopy.But the <II sign is at incorrect place.
Source...Jagdwaffe vol.5 Defending the Reich 1944-45.
Also attached the next old profile as the first pic.I think it should have showed rater the second Dora because of the cockpit conopy.But the <II sign is at incorrect place.
