looking good catch, i also have the same probs with cameras
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lesofprimus
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Lookin good Cory.... Cant believe u forgot the stick man......
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Thanks guys!
Dan, I'm bad for that. It got in before in went into the fuselage so it's all good. I leave gunsights out all the time, then have to cram them in once the canopy's on. Not fun!
I'll post pictures later of the fuselage. I have it together, and all the wings are on. I'm really at the painting stage, so hopefully I can do that soon. I'm just still not sure exactly what colours I need yet.
Dan, I'm bad for that. It got in before in went into the fuselage so it's all good. I leave gunsights out all the time, then have to cram them in once the canopy's on. Not fun!
I'll post pictures later of the fuselage. I have it together, and all the wings are on. I'm really at the painting stage, so hopefully I can do that soon. I'm just still not sure exactly what colours I need yet.
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Also, I assume this bird would have the ETC rack?
Cory will post a short 2 page PDF note for you later today to give you some food for thought on the camo colours...will be keen to hear others thoughts on my note as well....
109ROAMING
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Looking good mate!
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Thanks guys!
I'm sorry, I forgot to get the pics up! I will do that tomorrow.
And Wayne, I'm really looking forward to it, thanks mate (if I may use that term)!
I'm sorry, I forgot to get the pics up! I will do that tomorrow.
And Wayne, I'm really looking forward to it, thanks mate (if I may use that term)!
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Stay away from the pot and the grass and you'll see thing are much easier..
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Sounds good about colours Wayne; I'm a bit hazy regarding late-war schemes myself - not too bad with the greens, but it's that one that is brownish - Braunviolet I think it's called? Can't remember the RLM number, I'll have to look at those cross-refs that Jan sent.
lesofprimus
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RLM81 is what ur lookin for Terry....
here is the little note I whipped up....below...for your thoughts...
Now to start with the colours....
Eagle Editions :
Upper Surface Wings RLM 75 Gray-Violet/RLM 83 Dark green possibly RLM 74 Gray-Green.
Lower Surface RLM 76 Light Blue
JaPo :
Upper Surface : Fuselage RLM 83/ RLM 82 Bright Green. Wings RLM 83/76
Lower surface RLM 76 front half of lower wing and fuselage and Natural metal rear half of wing.
Now to start with the colours....
Eagle Editions :
Upper Surface Wings RLM 75 Gray-Violet/RLM 83 Dark green possibly RLM 74 Gray-Green.
Lower Surface RLM 76 Light Blue
JaPo :
Upper Surface : Fuselage RLM 83/ RLM 82 Bright Green. Wings RLM 83/76
Lower surface RLM 76 front half of lower wing and fuselage and Natural metal rear half of wing.
109ROAMING
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Nice piece Wayne! (sorry I haven't the knowledge to comment but it looks Fantastic!)
That is one cool looking plane!
That is one cool looking plane!
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Wayne, would I be right in thinking that the pictures you have of this D9 are halftones, in books? If so, could you e-mail me a SAME SIZE copy as in the book, of one, or both, and I'll check the dot sizes etc against a grey scale comparator. I'm assuming that the fairing for the armoured head-rest is RLM 66, so that will give me a starting point in the greys.
Obviously I can't promise anything definite, as there are so many variables regarding the reproduction, and of course electronic transmission; but with a print-out I might be able to give some pointers. When you are scanning the pics, set your scanner for a coloured image, NOT black and white, grey scale or line.
Cheers,
Terry.
Obviously I can't promise anything definite, as there are so many variables regarding the reproduction, and of course electronic transmission; but with a print-out I might be able to give some pointers. When you are scanning the pics, set your scanner for a coloured image, NOT black and white, grey scale or line.
Cheers,
Terry.
lesofprimus
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Great stuff Wayne, I would definatly say that there is NO RLM76 anywhere on the wings now....
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Forgot to say thanks for the RLM number Dan!
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Yeah, I agree with Les. There wouldn't be any 76 on the wings. I'm going to try something using photoshop to compare the colours. Here's the EE chart I'm using, I'm working on making a new one that's actually readable, but it's mind-numbing cutting, copy, pasting, then typing, then doing it over and over and over, so I'll finish it after. Is it just me, or does Rot look orange?
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Also, which yellow would you say the RD Bands are?
And scratch that new chart I was making for now, Photoshop crashed and I lost a third of it.
And scratch that new chart I was making for now, Photoshop crashed and I lost a third of it.
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Sorry for the triple post, but this post has some actual information to it.
After looking at the photos, and read what Wayne has to say, I agree with what he has in there.
For the top colours, I am certain one is RLM 83. While not spot on, like Wayne mentioned you have to take into account fading, and the one colour on the wing is too close to the nose to ignore. The second top colour was the tricky one. Comparing the pictures and the colour chart turned "grayscale" (Terry, you may be cringing at my method, but bear with me!), RLM 82 is not in the same colour range as the top colour, but RLM 75 is. Like Wayne pointed out, the colour that is oversprayed on the cowling is the same as the lighter top wing colour, and it is ALSO the same as the top fuselage colour. So, to put everything together, EE seems to have gotten it more correct than Japo in this instance.
Top: RLM 83 Dunkelgrün/RLM 75 Grauviolett
Sides: RLM 76 Lichtblau
The RLM 75 overspray seems to continue from the nose back all the way to just above the cross, which then becomes RLM 83. There appears to be little to no mottling on the tail, perhaps a little bit on the upper left tip. It also appears to not have any non-76 on the front ridge of the tail.
Dan, did you leave that thread for your Dora alive where the errors in the MM paint colours were discussed?
After looking at the photos, and read what Wayne has to say, I agree with what he has in there.
For the top colours, I am certain one is RLM 83. While not spot on, like Wayne mentioned you have to take into account fading, and the one colour on the wing is too close to the nose to ignore. The second top colour was the tricky one. Comparing the pictures and the colour chart turned "grayscale" (Terry, you may be cringing at my method, but bear with me!), RLM 82 is not in the same colour range as the top colour, but RLM 75 is. Like Wayne pointed out, the colour that is oversprayed on the cowling is the same as the lighter top wing colour, and it is ALSO the same as the top fuselage colour. So, to put everything together, EE seems to have gotten it more correct than Japo in this instance.
Top: RLM 83 Dunkelgrün/RLM 75 Grauviolett
Sides: RLM 76 Lichtblau
The RLM 75 overspray seems to continue from the nose back all the way to just above the cross, which then becomes RLM 83. There appears to be little to no mottling on the tail, perhaps a little bit on the upper left tip. It also appears to not have any non-76 on the front ridge of the tail.
Dan, did you leave that thread for your Dora alive where the errors in the MM paint colours were discussed?
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Thanks for the suggestion Kevin, I'll try it today or tomorrow.
And Dan, I found that thread of yours and the discussion.
And Dan, I found that thread of yours and the discussion.
