Group builds.....
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tango35
Airman 1st Class
The Idea of a Group Build sounds really good, so that we can share our knowledge, tips tricks and so we can improve our skills.
My assembly line is becoming busy, because i bought on Monday the new Ju 88 from RoG and have to finish it till March ( exhibition of my model club ); but before i will finish the Me 109.
greets Thomas
My assembly line is becoming busy, because i bought on Monday the new Ju 88 from RoG and have to finish it till March ( exhibition of my model club ); but before i will finish the Me 109.
greets Thomas
i agree with lucky wayne and wojtec and other model masters should join in as we all know they'll be great and i for one am hoping to pic up a few jewels of advice !
it would also be a shame if it got too competative
it would also be a shame if it got too competative
Heinz
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Well I'm in, just need to pick (and buy) a bird to build 
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Lucky13
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Well chaps, that's me just ordered my 1/48 Hasegawa 109K-4, Tamiya 190D-9 and decals from Hannant's....two 13's! 
Should be here sometime in early January...I hope! Oooh the wait! 
Should be here sometime in early January...I hope! Oooh the wait! 
lesofprimus
Brigadier General
I think I could be in this as well... I have a couple of 1/48th Bf 109's waiting to be built, as soon as I can get my ass in gear and finish up my JV44 Dora9...
Have to check the decal sheets and see if I have a Reich Defense crate tho...
Have to check the decal sheets and see if I have a Reich Defense crate tho...
III/JG 26 D-9's certainly did....
tango35
Airman 1st Class
@Wayne :
I know that the Doras had the RD-Band; my question was if the Me 109s ( G-14or K4 ) wore the RD-Band, too.
greets Thomas
I know that the Doras had the RD-Band; my question was if the Me 109s ( G-14or K4 ) wore the RD-Band, too.
greets Thomas
You didn't say that in your question...though?
On a serious note, to my knowledge no pics have surfaced yet that show 109's with the bands in III Gruppe....
On a serious note, to my knowledge no pics have surfaced yet that show 109's with the bands in III Gruppe....
tango35
Airman 1st Class
Sorry, my fault.
Because they are no images yet thats why i asked.
But, could it be ?
Thomas
Because they are no images yet thats why i asked.
But, could it be ?
Thomas
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Lucky13
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I always thought that ALL flying aircraft had "RD-BAND", just shows you! 
Anyway, I just found this 109's all the time, great if you want to know about a certain '109 kit! 8)
Anyway, I just found this 109's all the time, great if you want to know about a certain '109 kit! 8)
Personally...I think there probably are some pics out there somewhere.....they just haven't been published or even recognised for what they are....
Years ago it was stated in one Luftwaffe book about the scarcity of D-9 photo's......now look at just how many have surfaced in new books over the past few years.....and there is still more to come in at least 3 new future books.....right Erich!?
Airframes
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I have read in various publications, including Cauldwells 'JG26 Top Guns of the Luftwaffe', that it is thought the Gruppe did not have the bands. However, there have been a couple of photos where it is not proven that the aircraft depicted were of that unit, but the (B&W) picture showed what looked like the correct RD band. As you say, no proof that the pics are of JG26 birds. Perhaps Erich will have an answer.
Looks like I'm in for the Group Build, not competitively, just for the fun etc. Decided to change plans regarding a FW190A8, which will look slightly 'different'! Means I'll have to buy another kit for the original plan! Darn, another forced visit to the model shop! Oh goody!!! Ha, Ha!
Looks like I'm in for the Group Build, not competitively, just for the fun etc. Decided to change plans regarding a FW190A8, which will look slightly 'different'! Means I'll have to buy another kit for the original plan! Darn, another forced visit to the model shop! Oh goody!!! Ha, Ha!
A4K
Brigadier General
Evan, yes, it is indeed the Academy g-14 kit.
Also, I'm sorry but I'm not Tia. The name is Raymond. I meant "Thanks In Advance" when I placed TIA at the bottom of my post.
Raymond
Sorry Raymond! Boy, do I feel like an idiot...
As for me, you can call me anything you like, just don't call me late for lunch
I've got that kit too, and there are a few basic problems with the measurements and form, but to be honest, I don't think most people would notice.
-As for the subject of the build, so we're talking specifically about fighters carrying RD bands? I was thinking Me 163s, He 162s and Misteln would fit into the last ditch Defence of the Reich category.
tango35
Airman 1st Class
Hello Evan,
my question for the RD Band was only for a specific fighter in a specials group ( here III JG 26 ). The Idea for the GB was Reichsverteidigung ( Reichs-defense) with all types and scales and the chance for us to improve our skills.
Here an example of an fighter without RD Band :
my question for the RD Band was only for a specific fighter in a specials group ( here III JG 26 ). The Idea for the GB was Reichsverteidigung ( Reichs-defense) with all types and scales and the chance for us to improve our skills.
Here an example of an fighter without RD Band :
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Benevolens Magister
Good point A4K. I was going off Tango's date span, from 1943.
The bird I have in mind is in September 1944, but I'll have to check my refs more closely concerning the RD band.
If it's going to have to include the band(s), I'll have to rethink it! Darn!
To make it easier on all, could I suggest a combination of Tango's and Lucky's ideas? Any Luftwaffe aircraft defending the Reich, wherever based, from 1943 to May 1945; any scale, individual, plain base or diorama, although only the main subject, the aircraft, should be judged. Judging to be made on the admitted skill/ability level of the builder, eg beginner, intermediate, expert etc., and no competition as such - votes by the participants on which is the best in 'category' - no voting for your own model (!), and if an individual wishes to participate, but not 'compete', that will be the choice of that individual. Main aim - fun, and sharing experience/hints/tips/methods/techniques etc. Also, bringing together like-minded people, and re-creating history in miniature.
Any other suggestions/view/thoughts?
Terry.
The bird I have in mind is in September 1944, but I'll have to check my refs more closely concerning the RD band.
If it's going to have to include the band(s), I'll have to rethink it! Darn!
To make it easier on all, could I suggest a combination of Tango's and Lucky's ideas? Any Luftwaffe aircraft defending the Reich, wherever based, from 1943 to May 1945; any scale, individual, plain base or diorama, although only the main subject, the aircraft, should be judged. Judging to be made on the admitted skill/ability level of the builder, eg beginner, intermediate, expert etc., and no competition as such - votes by the participants on which is the best in 'category' - no voting for your own model (!), and if an individual wishes to participate, but not 'compete', that will be the choice of that individual. Main aim - fun, and sharing experience/hints/tips/methods/techniques etc. Also, bringing together like-minded people, and re-creating history in miniature.
Any other suggestions/view/thoughts?
Terry.
109ROAMING
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Nice shots Tango!
One question about 109K-4's I've wanted to know for a while ,Anyone know why some K-4's rear tail wheel was retractable and others had fixed?
One question about 109K-4's I've wanted to know for a while ,Anyone know why some K-4's rear tail wheel was retractable and others had fixed?
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Benevolens Magister
I've got the answer somewhere, Daniel; similar thing with 'tall' and 'short' tail wheel legs on some late 'G' models. I'll try to find out over the weekend, but no doubt someone will have the answer before me! BTW, done a bit more work on your profile; a bit slow, as I'm using a mouse to 'paint', rather than a graphics tablet stylus, and the damn thing keeps 'flying' around - think I must have a slight glitch in the cable or something. I'll get it done eventually though, as I need it, and a few other different aircraft, for a portfolio someone wants.
109ROAMING
2nd Lieutenant
Cool! could do that as my "Reich defense" bird
Looking forward to it mate! no stress!
Looking forward to it mate! no stress!
tango35
Airman 1st Class
@Airframes :
The Retration of the tailwheel was made to have a more aerodynamic cell, also the additional wheel well doors at the main gear - in theory.
In practice the mechanism didnt worked ( reason for me unknown), so the K-4s were flown with tail wheel out, doors closed and the additional doors at the mainwheel were removed.
So if you want to build a K4, i would cut out the tail wheel door and glue them in a close position; for the mainwheel dont glue the additional doors, but dont forget to install the lever for the door in the gear bay.
greets
Thomas
The Retration of the tailwheel was made to have a more aerodynamic cell, also the additional wheel well doors at the main gear - in theory.
In practice the mechanism didnt worked ( reason for me unknown), so the K-4s were flown with tail wheel out, doors closed and the additional doors at the mainwheel were removed.
So if you want to build a K4, i would cut out the tail wheel door and glue them in a close position; for the mainwheel dont glue the additional doors, but dont forget to install the lever for the door in the gear bay.
greets
Thomas
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