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lesofprimus
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And a question on the gloss coat, how do I dilute the Future??? I would think 1 part Future to 4 parts Thinner, or do I mix it with something other than enamel thinner???
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Matt308
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Les, it should be thin enough to brush as is. But be careful, I have found that it does dry quickly. If you do need to thin it, I have read that you can use 90% isopropyl alcohol (rubbing alcohol). I haven't tried that however. Haven't needed too. Oh, I have also used a plain ole paint brush application too, though not over huge flat surfaces, just a few square inches. It self levels and I couldn't tell that it was applied by brush. And clean up is a bit more labor intensive.
If you airbrush it, I run two jars of window cleaner through my brush while constantly adjusting the needle. Once that is done, I then run a jar of thinner through it. The first time I used it, I treated it like acrylics (warm soapy water with minimal cleaning) and I ended up having to completely strip my gun, soak it overnight, etc. to get it back running.
Here's a great guide that Lucky (I think) posted.
If you airbrush it, I run two jars of window cleaner through my brush while constantly adjusting the needle. Once that is done, I then run a jar of thinner through it. The first time I used it, I treated it like acrylics (warm soapy water with minimal cleaning) and I ended up having to completely strip my gun, soak it overnight, etc. to get it back running.
Here's a great guide that Lucky (I think) posted.
If you airbrush it, I run two jars of window cleaner through my brush while constantly adjusting the needle..........I forgot about that one Matt must be some of the ammonia in some of the window cleaners.I use gloss enamel more and more I have heard of varnish even you just go back with acrylics with the washes.
Airframes
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Dan, Matt's right, you don't need to thin the Future to spray. BUT, do as he says regarding the clean-up. I've normally just sprayed a lot of water through the 'brush (single action type) immediately after using it with Future. Then I follow that with a few ounces/ mils of thinners, in this case, enamel thinners (white spirit) as it's the only type I've got!
When I come to use the 'brush again, I first run thinners through it and, if going to use Future again, follow the thinners with about a jar of water (25ml Badger-type jar) to get rid of the thinners, then air to dry the needle/nozzle. If I'm painting, (enamels) the thinners is good enough by itself first.
When I come to use the 'brush again, I first run thinners through it and, if going to use Future again, follow the thinners with about a jar of water (25ml Badger-type jar) to get rid of the thinners, then air to dry the needle/nozzle. If I'm painting, (enamels) the thinners is good enough by itself first.
well done Les you done a fantastic job
Great work Dan!! the mottling effect has come up sweet man!
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lesofprimus
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Thanks so much for the info hiys, Im good with it now.... The only thing I question is in setting the spray first... At 15-20 psi, what should I see comin out of my double action with pure Future???
A nice fog??
A nice fog??
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lesofprimus
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The article did say to bathe my model in water and then wash it with mild soap, to get the fingerprints and oils off it.....
Are u shittin me???
Are u shittin me???
109ROAMING
2nd Lieutenant
Before you began? yup I've read that (Its true)only did it on my last model (B-26)
It gave me the satisfaction of knowing I was doing it "properly"
Anyhow its really starting to look good!
It gave me the satisfaction of knowing I was doing it "properly"
Anyhow its really starting to look good!
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lesofprimus
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No not before I began (which I did), but now, after I have it painted and panel lines done some....
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lesofprimus
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lesofprimus
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Still some touchup needs to get done....
Lucky13
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Bl**dy beautiful Dan, bl**dy beautiful! 8) 
Airframes
Benevolens Magister
Tell you what Dan, as a first, or even one of a few attempts at airbrushing such a scheme, that's brilliant!
Unless there are obvious finger/grease/dirt marks on the model, I wouldn't bother washing it. If there are some, just use some damp cotton wool on the immediate area, very lightly. Not sure how the spray would appear out of a double action brush, but on my single action Badger, you can hardly see the Future, until it hits the surface. Give it a quick trial blast on something first, even it's a piece of paper, so that you can see the pattern formed when it makes contact. Then, when you're ready to go 'live' make sure you keep the 'brush moving, in order to avoid any build-up or runs. If you do get any, use the EDGE of a piece of kitchen towel/tissue, to soak it up, then continue, having first checked that the 'brush is delivering OK.
If there are any gaps, bare patches or whatever, ignore them, carry on with the rest, then come back a few minutes later. The Future should be dry enough to take it; however, it is so glossy, that it will look very wet, and you'll be able to see exactly where it is, or where it's going, without problems.
Really looking forward to the next bit mate!
Unless there are obvious finger/grease/dirt marks on the model, I wouldn't bother washing it. If there are some, just use some damp cotton wool on the immediate area, very lightly. Not sure how the spray would appear out of a double action brush, but on my single action Badger, you can hardly see the Future, until it hits the surface. Give it a quick trial blast on something first, even it's a piece of paper, so that you can see the pattern formed when it makes contact. Then, when you're ready to go 'live' make sure you keep the 'brush moving, in order to avoid any build-up or runs. If you do get any, use the EDGE of a piece of kitchen towel/tissue, to soak it up, then continue, having first checked that the 'brush is delivering OK.
If there are any gaps, bare patches or whatever, ignore them, carry on with the rest, then come back a few minutes later. The Future should be dry enough to take it; however, it is so glossy, that it will look very wet, and you'll be able to see exactly where it is, or where it's going, without problems.
Really looking forward to the next bit mate!
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lesofprimus
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Thanks guys... Shouldnt have too many issues with this Terry....
109ROAMING
2nd Lieutenant
Looking good ,Also for a airbrush that is playing up ,Well done!
absolutely cracking job Les
Catch22
Major
Looks pretty darn close to me Dan, great job!
