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Benevolens Magister
That's the one! Just got to check whether it was binocular, or monocular sight. It started monocular, then binocular, then back again !
Tiger I. Kursk Armor Group Build
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T Bolt
Colonel
You'll have to help me out with that one. I have 2 other sources that show it and it looks like the pic above in both.
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Benevolens Magister
Sorted it. At the time of Kursk, it was a stadiametric binocular sight. So, looking at the gun mantlet from the front; on the right of the gun tube (on the model) there is what appears to be a short tube. Remove this, to leave a hole, and drill another hole, of the same diameter, to the right of this, at a guess, for this scale, about 1mm apart. That should do it. If you need a pic let me know, I'm struggling with my hands at the moment, so haven't scanned the book yet.
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T Bolt
Colonel
I'll look at my references. There should be a pik I can use. When you said binocular, or monocular Above I misunderstood and thought you were talking about two kinds of rear pistol ports. Understood now, Thanks a lot Terry
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Benevolens Magister
You're welcome mate.
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T Bolt
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vikingBerserker
Lieutenant General
I believe they are anti-personnel weapons.
She's looking beautiful!
She's looking beautiful!
Erich
the old Sage
no they are smoke dischargers, a short term approach that was quickly removed, almost worthless
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T Bolt
Colonel
I made the changes Terry suggested, drilling out the binocular sight to the right of the gun and adding the pistol port made out of plastic card stock on the left rear of the turret. I will give these areas a black wash to make them blend in better. I also painted on the rubber part of the 36 road wheels and installed them.
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Vic Balshaw
Major General
Coming along nicely Glenn
Yep...doing good Glenn!
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Benevolens Magister
Looking great Glenn. Yes, the three 'tubes' on each side of the turret were smoke dischargers, which, as Erich pointed out, were later deleted, althoiugh some Tigers at Kursk had them.(The Tiger in your pic I presume is the one at Bovington, UK, which was captured intact in Tunisia, the first use of Tigers).
Apart from being ineffective, a Tiger took a hit in the dischargers, which detonated the smoke cannisters, which in turn set fire to the electrical system. This lead to the tank being lost after burning out ! Due to this, the system was discontinued on all further production.
There should be 'S' mine discharger cups on each corner of the hull for the Kursk period. These were for discharging anti-personnel mines in close combat, and each was a single 'tube', similar in appearance to one of the smoke discharger tubes. If you havent got a pic, let me know. (again, these were discontinued on later production.)
Looking at the road wheels, which look great btw, if possible, they would look even better if the central 'well' on each outer wheel could be filled slightly, leaving the main hub spindle visible. I reckon they would look more 'dished' then.
Apart from being ineffective, a Tiger took a hit in the dischargers, which detonated the smoke cannisters, which in turn set fire to the electrical system. This lead to the tank being lost after burning out ! Due to this, the system was discontinued on all further production.
There should be 'S' mine discharger cups on each corner of the hull for the Kursk period. These were for discharging anti-personnel mines in close combat, and each was a single 'tube', similar in appearance to one of the smoke discharger tubes. If you havent got a pic, let me know. (again, these were discontinued on later production.)
Looking at the road wheels, which look great btw, if possible, they would look even better if the central 'well' on each outer wheel could be filled slightly, leaving the main hub spindle visible. I reckon they would look more 'dished' then.
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T Bolt
Colonel
That is the Tiger at Bovington. I remember seeing a video in which the guy that took the shot that disabled it was pointing out how the shell skidded along the barrel and hit the manlet, jamming it and disabling the gun.
It should be no problem to fill in the wheel hubs a little as I have to put the wash on them any way. I think I will save myself a headache and not put in the smoke dischargers since it sounds like the majority of Tigers at Kursk did not have them, but I will try to find something to fabricate the 'S' mine dischargers, and I also need to fabricate the headlamps. I'll probably put on the decals and tracks before I tackle those fiddly bits.
All in all I'm very pleased with the way it's coming along. I had a few minuets of panic though late last night when one of the exterior road wheels fell to the floor and went missing wile I was installing it, but to my amazement I was able to find it.
It should be no problem to fill in the wheel hubs a little as I have to put the wash on them any way. I think I will save myself a headache and not put in the smoke dischargers since it sounds like the majority of Tigers at Kursk did not have them, but I will try to find something to fabricate the 'S' mine dischargers, and I also need to fabricate the headlamps. I'll probably put on the decals and tracks before I tackle those fiddly bits.
All in all I'm very pleased with the way it's coming along. I had a few minuets of panic though late last night when one of the exterior road wheels fell to the floor and went missing wile I was installing it, but to my amazement I was able to find it.
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Benevolens Magister
Glad you found the wheel, otherwise you could have spent ages trying to find an old shirt button or something to match !
B-17engineer
Colonel
Good work Glenn!
dirkpitt289
Master Sergeant
Simply stunning work Glen.
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but didn't I read somewhere in one of the three threads for this build (Glen's, Harrison's and Mine) that the red/ brown color wasn't used on the German armor until AFTER the battle of Kursk?
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but didn't I read somewhere in one of the three threads for this build (Glen's, Harrison's and Mine) that the red/ brown color wasn't used on the German armor until AFTER the battle of Kursk?
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T Bolt
Colonel
I used the colors Terry mentioned in this post and made the pattern based on several profiles I found on the internet
Vic Balshaw
Major General
Glad you found the wheel Glenn otherwise you would have to turn it into a battle damaged diorama..... 
Pretty certain the Green and the Red/Brown were both used during Kursk...as one Tiger I subject I am looking at indicates that it was a new tank delivered in the Dark Yellow and then had the green and brown added....will check my reference....could be wrong too!
dirkpitt289
Master Sergeant
Well I'm glad I was wrong because it is a magnificent paint job and in such a small scale. Cudo's
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